ENHANCED Garrison-Script for KGCM v3.4

[Userpro]

Okay, the Garrison-Script for KGCM 3.4, with the following improvements is ready and seems to be fully functional. What a luckiness...

The improvements are: After the AI has normaly received garrison-script-units in a main city, the same city has to wait 7 turns before getting other garrison-script-units (no more multiple spawning garrison-units, for each attack).
+ And i've also managed, that a human player gets no more benefits from the garrison-script (when the AI is attacking one of your main city, then the garrison script ignores this).

Important: This script is intended as an BETA release, because i've tested the AI vs. AI a few times only. Please give us feedback concerning the behavior when the AI attacking "AI-garrison-scripted" cities. If the feedback about the functionality is positiv, Dave would like to add this garrison script to the main mod (future update).


Installation: Simply replace this file with the original located in
x:\Medieval 2 TotalWar\mods\kingdoms_grand_campaign_mod\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\
(make a backup before u replace this)

ATTENTION: Not save game compatible!!!

NEW DOWNLOAD @ POST #27

[Userpro]

So many views and visits here ..... Bear in mind, when you give no feedback soon, you are condemned to give me all the rep's in your possess ....

[VeniVidiVicious]

"After the AI has normaly received garrison-script-units in a main city, the same city has to wait 7 turns before getting other garrison-script-units (no more multiple spawning garrison-units, for each attack)."

First of all i'd like to say this is a great Idea and well done on impementing it!
My only (minor) problem is that I think this should apply to human factions as well to avoid giving the ai an unfair edge.

Great work though Userprobe!

[Userpro]

Okay, thank you and congratulation for the first feedback.

My only (minor) problem is that I think this should apply to human factions as well to avoid giving the ai an unfair edge.

There is no problem to change this behaviour in the script. But we must wait for other feedback and what Dave is thinking about that. But keep in mind that a Garrison-script is basically for helping the AI to be more able to defend their main cities.
But to compensate any unfair edge for human players, maybe better to lower the garrison-script-bonus???!

[Stylix]

@userprobe,

I have downloaded the new script, but I am in the middle of a very good campaign and want to finish it before I try it out. It sounds like a great idea but I am confused about the 'this should apply to human factions as well'. Does this apply to a hot seat game? It was my understanding that in Dave's version (solitaire) the human players do not get the garrison bonus. Have I just never noticed this before or never been is this situation?

In my experience the AI needs every advantage it can get!

[Userpro]

I have downloaded the new script, but I am in the middle of a very good campaign and want to finish it before I try it out.

I can understand you.

Does this apply to a hot seat game?

No.

It was my understanding that in Dave's version (solitaire) the human players do not get the garrison bonus. Have I just never noticed this before or never been is this situation?

I'm shure you've never been in this situation! In Dave's version the human player get the garrison-bonus. I'm sorry to say that you have misunderstood this.

[VeniVidiVicious]

I first came across this when the Spanish attacked my Moorish capital.

I was never so pleased in my life, I thanked Allah that day!

[Userpro]

I first came across this when the Spanish attacked my Moorish capital.

I was never so pleased in my life, I thanked Allah that day!

Yes, but at this point you know, that you must thanks Dave's garrison-script, and not Allah.

[Dave Scarface]

This enhanced garrison script would not interest me as much if it also works for human settlements. The AI cannot garrison its settlements and needs the help from the script. On the other hand there is no such excuse for humans to have this cheat also. Having garrison scripts when you play makes the game a whole lot easier. As you don't have to worry about leaving certain places ungarrisoned.

Also this would not be so good for hotseat games. When you are playing against other humans, part of the biggest challenge is defending your regions. Some people might say that its not fair if the AI gets this bonus and they don't. But I am only interested in ideas that make the campaign a bit harder.

Dave

[Stylix]

@dave,

Well said!

[brousell]

New garrison script working fine...

Well done in making the game harder.

[Userpro]

New garrison script working fine...

Well done in making the game harder.

Thanks for reporting. Keep in mind: Harder because human don't get those garrison units. But easier for multiple attacks on ai-main cities.

[Dave Scarface]

The only thing in this script that could potentially make things easier is that once you have activated a garrison and a battle has been resolved. Any remaining army in the said settlement could suddenly decide its a nice sunny day and go for a walkabout But there is not much we can do about the AI's complete lack of understanding that you have to defend as well as attack sadly Is this amount of turns to the next spawn okay? maybe one less is better? I am just thinking that it might be possible to build and send another army to attack and take the target in this window of opportunity :hmmm:

Dave

[Dave Scarface]

What does everyone else think the best cool off period should be in this script between garrison spawns? Please can you give us your reasons and not just a straight answer to this question.

regards,
Dave

[Userpro]

This is a good question. I've initially thinking about 5 to 10 turns, but i can't decide what the ideal number really is. So i'm going for a number between and that it's why it actually would be 7.
When altering this number, i can't explain why, but i think it's better to lower it, than to raise.
5-6 !?! But 7 it's not bad anyhow.

[Stylix]

I have not tried the script yet due to my current campaign (should finish it tomorrow), but I have been following the thread. I think it should be lowered to no more than 5 turns. My reason being, assuming worst case scenario, if the attacker has a citadel within one turn march a new stack could be built in just 4 turns (5 new units per turn) and then attack with a full stack in 5 turns. Of course this is all subjective and is just my opinion. I think that this script is a great improvement and would like to use it in whatever form it becomes.

It may be possible to script the garrison army to dissolve after the battle. If the created units are assigned to a group, that unit can then be ordered to be killed using the kill unit command.

[Blackader]

I would say 6, because in fact, the time to recruit an other army and go to the target is approximative 6, which is a good medium.

[Dave Scarface]

It may be possible to script the garrison army to dissolve after the battle. If the created units are assigned to a group, that unit can then be ordered to be killed using the kill unit command.

I do not think it is necassary to kill off the garrison. As a settlement cannot get another garrison for a number of turns. It would be good to have those men that are left around the area from which they spawned.

Lets say you send two stacks towards an objective. The first attack fails but you kill most of the garrison. Then the "kill unit command" activates and the remaining men disappear. Your second army meets little or no resistance and takes the settlement without a fight.

Dave

[harsivo]

Good idea, i will try it when i have finished few intresting games first....

Is garrison script reason why most factions are bankrupt most of time, little later in game they cant build even navies?

I think some factions, like Milan need garrison script at start, otherwise its really hard to try to expand, Milan is one of the hardest to play because its surrounded by greedy neighbours, and i am not very good at diplomacy...

[Dave Scarface]

Okay, I have decided to make the garrison script fire every 5 turns when I include this in the mod. I didn't like 7 turns, as it was too long for the AI to have to wait for another army.

Dave