For King or Country - The English civil war

[Strelac]

how that black finish on your cuirassiers' armour was obtained, though what process?

black amour finish was made as oil is rubbed on hot metal surface... similar to today blueing of the handguns.

those pistoleros are great. Been on the business trip for 3 dys and half of the mod is already finished

[Tadzreuli]

very interesting project, Alpha Delta ! I will you good luck and all best + rep

[AlphaDelta]

Thanks gents. 50% isn't a bad rough estimate for where it is right now. Other than dragoons, and coat colour variations for the different infantry regiments, all units are now complete. Which brings up a good point...

Dragoons..Historically they were mounted infantry. They looked identical to standard musketeers except that they generally wore cavalry boots. Often used as a scouting force their job was to ride into position, dismount and fight. This is impossible in Med2. I have 2 choices for dragoons, neither of them are ideal:

1) Represent them as light infantry. By giving them stats that make them good ambushers, able to hide, better shots, fire individually, faster runners and be worse in hand to hand combat, they would serve a slightly different purpose to musketeers, but they would have the same basic functionality.

2) Represent them as mounted shot. During this period cavalry often carried carbines and fired from the saddle. They were classified under the old name 'Harquebusiers'. Ironically the 'harquebusiers' of the time were actually the 'cavalier' and 'ironside' calalry that I modelled already. The MED2 engine being what it is, only allows 2 weapons, so I chose pistol and sword instead of carbine and pistol, or carbine and sword. This leaves an historical gap on the battlefield that could be represented by dragoons.

I'm curious for feedback and ideas.

[Ahiga]

Assuming you don't have a light infantry troop type already, I would recommend having both.

[Bernem]

wow, high speed and best quality here. :tumbsup:

I'm for the light infantry option, since they dismounted for battle, but maybe you can give them cav speed on the strat map

[AlphaDelta]

I'm leaning towards having dragoons as light infantry, and perhaps adding a 'classical' harquebusier unit.

Here is the Royalist general, the concept comes from an osprey picture of King Charles I.

[Son of Mao]

I'm leaning towards having dragoons as light infantry, and perhaps adding a 'classical' harquebusier unit.

Here is the Royalist general, the concept comes from an osprey picture of King Charles I.

Amazing as always.

[Carl von Döbeln]

Indeed

[AlphaDelta]

Just a quick update.

There is now 4 unique/historical foote regiments represented on each side, plus the militia units, plus cavalry..Unit cards and names are complete.

[AlphaDelta]

Seems like interest is down a bit, so here is a preview that explains the Association system and the different regiments available.

The Militia Ordinance vs Commissions of Array

During the run upto the beginning of the English civil war, tensions grew between King and Parliament. Control of the county militias, known as trained bands became a central focus as there was no standing army in England. The tensions began to boil and in January 1642 King Charles attempted to arrest 5 members of Parliament. Parliaments reaction was to deny Charles control of the Army.

Parliament passed 'The Militia Ordinance'. It was a piece of legislation that pushed the country one step closer towards Civil War between the King and Parliament of England. It permitted parliament to choose who could command the militia and where. This was an outrage to the King who had traditionally been in control of appointing the Lord Lieutenants to command the county militias (known as Trained bands). It was the first law Parliament had put into affect without royal approval.

In response the king sent out commissions of array to gentry across England empowering them to summon all men aged 15-60. The question of whether to obey Parliament's Militia Ordinance or the King's Commission of Array became an early test of allegiance for nobles and gentry.

Parliaments militia ordinance divided the nation up into "Associations". Each association had a commander and it was his job to recruit into his regiments. This system is simulated in For King or Country.



The map above shows the 6 associations that facilitate recruitment of regimented infantry. Both inside and outside of the associations you can recruit basic militia units providing the settlement has a Militia hall, not a Regimental headquarters.


The Regiments

Parliamentarian RegimentsRoyalist Regiments

Southern Association

The Earl of Essex's regiment of FooteKing Charles I lifeguard of foote



Western Association

The Earl of Stamford's regiment of FooteRalph Hopton's regiment of foote



Eastern Association

The Earl of Manchester's regiment of FootePrince Rupert's regiment of blew coat foote




Midland Association

The Baron of Brooke's regiment of FooteSpencer Compton's regiment of foote



Northern Association

Thomas Fairfax's regiment of foote The Earl of Newcastle's regiment of foote



London Association

Tower Hamlet Trayned bands



Militia

Parliamentarian militia regiment of footeRoyalist militia regiment of foote



Cavalry

Haslerigg’s regiment of horseKing Charles I's lifeguard of horse



Parliamentarian troopersRoyalist harquebusiers



Hope you enjoyed this preview.

Cheers

[Miraj]

Seems like interest is down a bit, so here is a preview that explains the Association system and the different regiments available.

The Militia Ordinance vs Commissions of Array

During the run upto the beginning of the English civil war, tensions grew between King and Parliament. Control of the county militias, known as trained bands became a central focus as there was no standing army in England. The tensions began to boil and in January 1642 King Charles attempted to arrest 5 members of Parliament. Parliaments reaction was to deny Charles control of the Army.

Parliament passed 'The Militia Ordinance'. It was a piece of legislation that pushed the country one step closer towards Civil War between the King and Parliament of England. It permitted parliament to choose who could command the militia and where. This was an outrage to the King who had traditionally been in control of appointing the Lord Lieutenants to command the county militias (known as Trained bands). It was the first law Parliament had put into affect without royal approval.

In response the king sent out commissions of array to gentry across England empowering them to summon all men aged 15-60. The question of whether to obey Parliament's Militia Ordinance or the King's Commission of Array became an early test of allegiance for nobles and gentry.

Parliaments militia ordinance divided the nation up into "Associations". Each association had a commander and it was his job to recruit into his regiments. This system is simulated in For King or Country.



The map above shows the 6 associations that facilitate recruitment of regimented infantry. Both inside and outside of the associations you can recruit basic militia units providing the settlement has a Militia hall, not a Regimental headquarters.


The Regiments

Parliamentarian RegimentsRoyalist Regiments

Southern Association

The Earl of Essex's regiment of FooteKing Charles I lifeguard of foote



Western Association

The Earl of Stamford's regiment of FooteRalph Hopton's regiment of foote



Eastern Association

The Earl of Manchester's regiment of FootePrince Rupert's regiment of blew coat foote




Midland Association

The Baron of Brooke's regiment of FooteSpencer Compton's regiment of foote



Northern Association

Thomas Fairfax's regiment of foote The Earl of Newcastle's regiment of foote



London Association

Tower Hamlet Trayned bands



Militia

Parliamentarian militia regiment of footeRoyalist militia regiment of foote



Cavalry

Haslerigg’s regiment of horseKing Charles I's lifeguard of horse



Parliamentarian troopersRoyalist harquebusiers



Hope you enjoyed this preview.

Cheers

Superbly detailed and in-depth my friend.

This is going to be a classic me-thinks. That's two under your belt now.

[Nakharar]

Very nice the Newcastle units should be the best

cant wait to see Prince Ruperts cavalry and Oliver Cromwells cavalry

[AlphaDelta]

Newcastle units should be the best

What gives you that impression?

cant wait to see Prince Ruperts cavalry and Oliver Cromwells cavalry

They are already previewed.

[Nakharar]

Newcastle units well when i earnt about it were the best the Lord of Newcastles units though i learnt it 2 years back

[AlphaDelta]

All I know is that they got roundly trounced at Marston Moor in '44, although they did stand when the rest of the Royalist army ran. Other than that, with all the work I've been putting into modding, I haven't had much time for reading.

Cheers

[Son of Mao]

Very Impressive, will there be any Calvary with lances?

[AlphaDelta]

The lance was dead and buried at this point in history. Entirely replaced by the wheel-lock pistol which had been proven as an effective weapon against European pikemen.

[Bernem]

so finally the cantabrian circle will have some use!

[DaVinci]

so finally the cantabrian circle will have some use!

For sure would be ahistorical in this mod.


The preview: Excellent work, AlphaDelta

[Der Angelsachse]

Stunning preview and great implementation of the different regiments. That was always going to be tricky, seems like you've really got it nailed though!

God I am so anxious to get my grubby mits on this, i'm almost as excted about this mod as I am about ETW!

Great job so far...keep it up AD