Imams > Priests?

**frederickm** · August 05, 2008, 05:05 AM

Is it me or are imams immune to heresy, I started M2TW playing as Turks (unlocked) and then I played Turks again and then I played them again, and now I'm trying France my first catholic faction and whats annoying me is about 1/4 of the denouncing turns my priest into a heretic but I've never had an imam turned into an heretic.

**eggthief** · August 05, 2008, 05:59 AM

Well, I play with the moors in SS 6.1 and Ive had some imams turn into heretics.

**GVP** · August 05, 2008, 06:23 AM

I've played vanilla with muslim factions and lots of my imams became heretics

**Walternat0r** · August 05, 2008, 07:15 AM

I dunno about Imams but Orthodox priests seem to be well susceptible to falling to heresy. Having a massive problem with it in my SS6.1 Byzantine campaign. It seems that the 1-2 piety guys are ok, but its the 4-5 piety priests that are falling. Doing my nut in it is!

**Antlion** · August 05, 2008, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Walternat0r

I dunno about Imams but Orthodox priests seem to be well susceptible to falling to heresy. Having a massive problem with it in my SS6.1 Byzantine campaign. It seems that the 1-2 piety guys are ok, but its the 4-5 piety priests that are falling. Doing my nut in it is!

i agree with your findings, i've had the same problem. I also found that it was alot better if you remove all priests from 'cities' after like 92% i prefer. When i move them away from my mainlands into an enemy i lose less 4-5+ piety priests and lose far more of the 1-3 piety. I'm assuming it has to do public order since i've maybe lost 1 priest while in a castle region.

**clandestino** · August 05, 2008, 11:43 AM

You just were lucky.

**Surgeon** · August 05, 2008, 12:18 PM

This one time I was sailing to Jerusalem on crusade and my ship just didn't make it and was hovering off the coast. There were like three Imams standing on by the seaside and I thought "that's odd, the AI usually doesn't keep so many religious agents in one spot". Next turn I finally landed and POW! it turned out there were 7 Imams trying to denounce 5 heretics in the region. As I watched some of the Imams turned heretical so I finally had to crank out some priests and purge the land of the unclean.

**crazedwombat** · August 05, 2008, 12:34 PM

I've found when converting the population, i fyou have 3 priests closely together they'll rarely turn.

As for denouncing. i've accidentally created an army of heretics because I was hoping the <20% chance to denounce would pay off...it happens quite a bit.

**Random Emperor** · August 05, 2008, 01:35 PM

unorthodoxyis caused

**KoS** · August 06, 2008, 04:34 PM

See, the thing about preists of all three denominations is that, for Catholic factions, once a priest has been made a Cardinal, they are immune to heresy. Since there is no such immunity for imams or Orthodox priests, I would imagine that more of them fall to heresy than Catholics, but that's not the case...

:hm:

Once, as Egypt, on the tenth or so turn I had three imams total. On Turn 11 all three went heretic simultaneously.

**baabaaloo** · August 06, 2008, 07:18 PM

i cant recall ever having a priest turn heretic, but thats cause i dont start to train priests until i get cathedrals, and i assassinate heretics and witches...

i saw 4 imans turn heretic with 3 turns once, but i also had 10 maxed out bishops in egypt