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    How come your prince is rarely your first son, and often somebody else?

    I was under the impression it was the first born son always, unless you don't have one then it becomes your brother or so on.

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    The ai doesn't follow the kingdom way and often choses the best family member, I often check my familiy tree to let my first son become the heir.

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    odd

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    i thought you couldnt change the faction leader in medieval 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrueGreek View Post
    i thought you couldnt change the faction leader in medieval 2?
    You can't change the faction leader, but you can change the heir, who will become factino leader afterwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinshejsi View Post
    You can't change the faction leader, but you can change the heir, who will become factino leader afterwards
    howd you riggit to do that? TELL ME GOD TELL ME!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow8 View Post
    howd you riggit to do that? TELL ME GOD TELL ME!
    Just go to family tree, select you first son by left clicking on his pic. Then you'll see in the bottom left corner of the family tree page a sign that says choose faction heir. Click on that and he's heir

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    i kill off the bad sides of my family that i dont want taking power
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    is that your way of training your assassins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrueGreek View Post
    is that your way of training your assassins?
    i just send them to some retarded rebel settlement with one infantry, i fight the battle and make sure they die.
    i dont use assassins, unless i dont like the pope....
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    It would be great if we had civil wars in the game so we could take care of incompetent family members and rulers by choosing sides.


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    thats what i meant, but thanks anyway

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    that was ROME!

    choosing your heir in Med 2 involves at least one enemy unit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samir View Post
    that was ROME!

    choosing your heir in Med 2 involves at least one enemy unit
    Ooo yes, I just checked and it isn't like Rome
    Sorry shadow, I've been playing to much RTR these days. Forgot it was different in medieval.
    How do you change your heir actually in medieval?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinshejsi View Post
    Ooo yes, I just checked and it isn't like Rome
    Sorry shadow, I've been playing to much RTR these days. Forgot it was different in medieval.
    How do you change your heir actually in medieval?

    YOU"VE SHATTERED MY HOPES AND DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow8 View Post
    YOU"VE SHATTERED MY HOPES AND DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Srry, BUT WHY THE @€$µ£! DID THEY NOT INCLUDE THIS ANYMORE! WHY DO THEY ALWAYS NEED TO CHANGE THE GOOD THINGS!
    IF CA DOESNT MAKE YOU ABLE TO CHANGE HEIR IN E:TW I WILL TAKE MR CA HOSTAGE UNTILL THEY RELEASE A PATCH THAT FIXES IT!

    (srry for the caps)

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    Hmm in my anger I went madly searching the internet for mods that just fixes the heir thing, this is the best I found:

    Q: How can I change my faction heir?

    A: Unlike RTW, you cannot do that directly. The faction heir is the oldest son of the current faction ruler or, if he does not have a son, his brother.

    You can use the console to give your desired heir the Factionheir trait:

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    Open the console during your campaign by pressing the ~` key.

    Now type:

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    give_trait <character> Factionheir

    This is case sensitive and does not include the <>.
    But then you have to kill off the existing faction heir, which sounds rather brutal (the above mechanics were investigated by Factionheir, appropriately enough).

    Source: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=72109

    Looks like you still gotta kill the other one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinshejsi View Post
    Srry, BUT WHY THE @€$µ£! DID THEY NOT INCLUDE THIS ANYMORE! WHY DO THEY ALWAYS NEED TO CHANGE THE GOOD THINGS!
    IF CA DOESNT MAKE YOU ABLE TO CHANGE HEIR IN E:TW I WILL TAKE MR CA HOSTAGE UNTILL THEY RELEASE A PATCH THAT FIXES IT!

    (srry for the caps)
    The feeling's mutual but I doubt a patch will be released, the M2TW project is done with, the rest is up to modders. Does anyone know how much the game sold exactly?

    CA needs to get ETW completed before Feburary so probably all the employees are assigned to it. Personally, I think The Creative Assembly should have delayed Empire's development a while back and fixed Medieval 2 first. There are certainly many things CA could have done and I have a feeling Empire will have similar problems.
    Last edited by Sparkshot; August 05, 2008 at 02:12 PM.


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    Hello, and finally i am amongst people who play M2 TW and here goes my first post )))))

    Anyway

    I got this problem with my family tree, that to keep my famiy pure blooded and clean, i never accept the offer to take some other guy into my family as a son (like adopt, if u know what i mean), and because there are fewer family members then, and i dont like people who are married to daughters, i. e. they have different surname usually, and tend to send them off to fight rebells singlehanded, this causes my family to sometimes die out nearly

    I'll explain why.

    Sometimes u get the offer to marry a male in ur family to some noble woman from ur kingdom (Muslims always do it, since there are no princesses), however whenever i start to marry my kids (sounds weird) to foreign princesses OR the next in line by age to marry a noble woman dies, there is no more offer for anybody else to marry the noble woman from ur country. Is this a bug or what??? ))


    I am sorry if it sounds complex, try to understand )))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangir View Post
    Hello, and finally i am amongst people who play M2 TW and here goes my first post )))))

    Anyway

    I got this problem with my family tree, that to keep my famiy pure blooded and clean, i never accept the offer to take some other guy into my family as a son (like adopt, if u know what i mean), and because there are fewer family members then, and i dont like people who are married to daughters, i. e. they have different surname usually, and tend to send them off to fight rebells singlehanded, this causes my family to sometimes die out nearly

    I'll explain why.

    Sometimes u get the offer to marry a male in ur family to some noble woman from ur kingdom (Muslims always do it, since there are no princesses), however whenever i start to marry my kids (sounds weird) to foreign princesses OR the next in line by age to marry a noble woman dies, there is no more offer for anybody else to marry the noble woman from ur country. Is this a bug or what??? ))


    I am sorry if it sounds complex, try to understand )))
    I think it's because of the ratio of family members to provinces--which CA should have corrected. I encounter it all the time because I turtle, and sometimes it almost leads to my family's extinction. If you stop expanding or have few provinces, you will have less children and marriage proposals. Try taking over more provinces, and you should soon get more marriage proposals and children.


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