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[Ancientwanker]

Well, he didnt tell me anything about giving permission. I guess thats like last week where you guys contacted him to get half of our graphics set. I'm actually the mod leader so it would be nice to be involved in these sorts of things. Apparently I'm hard to find.

And correct me if I'm wrong but that's an almost verbatim copy of the concept, not something "completely different'. If you had permission then it's on him for not letting me know. Especially given the history weve had with this mod and permission.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

KK. I think they're only jealous of our work. So search for reasons to slander us. We know wot Merklir gives you a permission. if they want, they could ask him

[Ancientwanker]

If I'm jealous then why is it that this mod is raiding TLD and not vice versa?

I just loaned you guys some rohan helms last week, on top of the elf stuff. So much for gratitude.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

2 Ancient: 1. We have a permission. If you didn't no, sorry, but It's your problem. We ask autors about content not abnyone over
2. Your mod maded for another game, as I know and it's noncommercial projects, so you don't have serios reasons to feel angry
3. We made this mod by ourselfs. It's hard work as you now. But most of you only searching for reasons to slander us. The won't have any cent from this work, we ask about that remains of content that we use from others, the give our time and mights for this mod and everyone wanted to make it dead. Why? Only because team leader is russian? Are you nazi?

[LuiSius_ScutaRuS]

I like how the Muhad skirmishers look. that's amazing. and when we think this guys make this for free....

Nice job

[The Count(er)]

@The Counter

Unfortunately not possible on elephants, I think. Therefore I have chosen (very strong) fire arrows.

I could of sworn that elephants in Broken Crescent could do it and since it's currently installed I'll just go check right now

[Ancientwanker]

Ancient: 1. We have a permission. If you didn't no, sorry, but It's your problem. We ask autors about content not abnyone over
2. Your mod maded for another game, as I know and it's noncommercial projects, so you don't have serios reasons to feel angry

Na, some of the graphics are made by me and others. You contact merlkir because you think he's an easier touch. But youve always got an excuse. Last time "we thought you were dead".

If this time you had permission then I'm sorry for going off at KK, I dont have any history with him on this issue so its settled.

3. We made this mod by ourselfs. It's hard work as you now. But most of you only searching for reasons to slander us. The won't have any cent from this work, we ask about that remains of content that we use from others, the give our time and mights for this mod and everyone wanted to make it dead. Why? Only because team leader is russian? Are you nazi?

Am I a nazi? I dont give a about your mod, whether it lives or dies. My concern begins and ends with polite modding conventions and the asking of permission. If I jumped to a conclusion here its because this mod has a history and I wasnt informed that the concept was loaned.

If I want you dead why the have I loaned you graphics?

[DisgruntledGoat]

Well, he didnt tell me anything about giving permission. I guess thats like last week where you guys contacted him to get half of our graphics set. I'm actually the mod leader so it would be nice to be involved in these sorts of things. Apparently I'm hard to find.

And correct me if I'm wrong but that's an almost verbatim copy of the concept, not something "completely different'. If you had permission then it's on him for not letting me know. Especially given the history weve had with this mod and permission.

OMG call the cops he used your concept art to create his own original art. Ideas are ideas you can't force people to ask permission to use ideas, especially ones you put out on the interent for everyone to see. You put up a picture on the web and if someone sees it and likes it and decides to make original artwork based on it there is nothing you can do about it. Seriously, I can't understand, and I actually sympathize with you about them taking art assests from TLD, but to be complaining about taking inspiration from artwork. Thats just being y. I certainly am losing respect for a mod team that I thought was doing a good job. Now what I see are people who just like to have their ego's stroked, given credit for everything and love to point out how many downloads they have...

[The Count(er)]

I hope you don't mind if I say can you just PM your hate mail anyways I guess the problem with the Mumakil is that due to the ability where you kill the entire unit if it runs amok you can't give it the ability to use fire arrows and regular arrows at the same time

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Yes. We are bad stupid russians. We could use something without permisson >:-(. But yiou must understand that KK can't. If you don't believe us - believe him

[King Kong]

Thanks for the backup DisgruntledGoat and Krechet,

Actually I was trying to say the same before. So, could we please stop that?

We have the permission of Merlkir to use his concept art, he will get his credit for this painting and seeing we both do mods for completely different games I don't know where the problem is.

Also, ancientwan ker, I'm probably as uninformed as you about several things, so I didn't even knew what mod you and Merlkir are doing and that you have sent someone of the TATW team more stuff. If this is so, I thank you for that.
Also I didn't knew that there was any contact between the people of your mod and ours.

You contact merlkir because you think he's an easier touch. But youve always got an excuse. Last time "we thought you were dead".

Actually he contacted us to show his concept art.

Anyway, I wish you all the best for your M&B mod.

[Ancientwanker]

No, regarding asking to use our easterling, orc and er... dunnish(?) stuff last week. Nevermind. All settled. Good luck with yours too.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Sorry KK. I'm looking for all mods making by SiCh Guild of Masters. Every time our mods had good progress and popularity here or on ORG someone of rival's started to accuse us with steeling his content. So I'm going very angruy than smth like this happens. I tired to explain stupisd americans (sorry guys, I nknow most of you not like that) that it's not our mathod. Persones like Shedder, Yeoman or over masters always asks for using content from other mods.
And for info: in our Guild we mostly give content if somone asks for it. Our only condition - mention in credits. And you here are greedy idiots, I must say. You behave yourself like this mods will give you millions of dollars...

Sorry guys. But I live. I tired to damage my nerves...

[ccllnply]

Yes. We are bad stupid russians. We could use something without permisson >:-(. But yiou must understand that KK can't. If you don't believe us - believe him

No, offence Krechet but you've made some very stupid posts in this discussion. Accusing someone of being a Nazi over something as like this is stupid. Saying he is jealous of your work was also pointless and childish. A bit of thought before posting something is always appreciated

Although I think Ancient is over reacting about KK making a unit that was inspired by TLD's art, I don't really think you can blame him. This team hasn't really made the best reputation with other modders. Already there has been about several complaints about this team using other teams work without giving credit or asking permission. You can't blame him for being suspisious

[maximusminimus]

KingKong,

I think I must apologize for jumping into conclusions, but that only happened because of the previous case in which some of TLD textures were used for your elves. Please forgive me. As Ancient, I didn't know you had Merlkir's permission. I hope you understand.


Krechet(SiCh),

chill down dude, first of all I'm NOT american; I'm portuguese. Second, stop acting like we're trying to hurt this mod; it's NOT TRUE. Got it?


Good luck and happy modding

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Stop-stop-stop. I know all this argument. Indeed behavior of some modmakers in this forum and ORG especially looks like Slavic discrimination (I don' mean Ancient for info, he's only the cause, sorry Ancient). So i got a birt angruy. Sorry guys

[ccllnply]

Stop-stop-stop. I know all this argument. Indeed behavior of some modmakers in this forum and ORG especially looks like Slavic discrimination (I don' mean Ancient for info, he's only the cause, sorry Ancient). So i got a birt angruy. Sorry guys

I'm not really should what you mean by this post, are you apologizing or making excuses for you're behavior?

[Turtules]

@ All people arguing is it possible to get back on topic?
@ KK what happened to the old Avatar it was so sick!

So back on topic will the Mumaks be able to shoot regular and flaming arrows or is it not possible, and also when the unit runs amok just the mumak will the archers on top stop firing?

[The Count(er)]

well I made some post about the Mumakil but it's embedded in the argument

[Turtules]

Yeah so let´s try to get it back on topic. I think to give the Corsairs a more piraty look they should have dreads.