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[Obliterate76]

Ok you guys, I gots a problem. Recently I've been playing a Moorish campaign and am getting bored. I need all of TWC help to help me establish my new faction that I will be playing with. Here are some details that I'd like you to consider whilst putting up your recommendations. Thanks for your help. PS I will rep anyone that gives me a solid answer!

Features:
I would like a faction with good castle units and militia units (not to many italian factions though)

I would like a challenge that would make the game interesting for world domination.

The late period units for the faction ie(gunpowder, melee, cavalry) need to be up to par.

Starting position doesn't really matter but ah what the hell give me a good one.

and that's it!! I know the community will respond swiftly and decisvly towards my next decision. Cheers!!

[eggthief]

I'd say France.

[Babagitta]

Hmm.. that's a good puzzle.

Egypt!
1. I like the roster.
2. Expand fast (rebel areas all around).
3. Jihad every 10 turns.
4. Good economy.
5. Too many different strategies to take Europe.

BUT, stay away from the Kwarezmians and see what's going to happen after the Mongolian invasion.
AND, prepare yourself for the Crusaders...

It's not so easy but it's a good challenge.

[Mauzeer]

i would say France too, or Sicily maybe

[Obliterate76]

Hmmm....Sicily sounds interesting:hmmm:

[moosey]

yeah, france and sicily for me too, france has some very good late units and an interesting starting position.

if it was me though i would go with sicily, very good faction which can expand to almost anywhere with good units to boot

[OG Grenadier]

Yes France gets my vote. Great position, terrific late era units. Knock England/Scotland/Ireland out of the war first, then take Spain. I keep the Danes onside as good Allies. Then move East and crush the HRE before they get to building their godlike late era units.

[OTZ]

If you're willing to give it a try, my AoR mod makes the Knights Templar a very satisfying challenge.

Playing on VH/VH, I am having a difficult time with the Islamic Sandwich I find myself a part of. The best part is using one army as a fire brigade - roaming the middle east trying to push back the invaders.

Definitely a challenge trying to find a balance between expansion/economy/diplomacy. I have captured a few settlements (Acre, Damascus, Anticoh, Edessa, Aleppo, Baghdad, Adana, Qasyria) but 30 turns in I am faced with a horde of Egyptians (who are content to sit a watch for the moment) and maruading Turkish Armies who seem to come from every direction. I have fought only one sige battle against the Turks as I have to choice but to use my "fire brigade" whenever they fall upon a settlement.

The outlook is grim (even more so knowing Genghis and has gang of happy-go-lucky Mongols will be stopping by for tea in a few decades).

[Mauzeer]

OTZ dont fear Mongols, they perform so poor

[Obliterate76]

OTZ dont fear Mongols, they perform so poor

They only do poor depending on the terrain. If you fight them on the high ground=slaughtered if they fight you on a steppe=ruined if they fight you in a forest=ambush the hell outta them

[The Noble Lord]

I would recommend you the Fatimids and this is why:

I would like a faction with good castle units and militia units (not to many italian factions though)

Good castle units are: Khasseki, Al Haqa Infantry, Dismounted Ghulams,
Saracen militia, and Tabardariyya. No Italian units at all.

I would like a challenge that would make the game interesting for world domination.

Fatimids would be perfect for you, you are battling Turks, Knights Templars immediately, then Crusaders will come and give you constant headache,
Kwarezmians will invade, and after that be ready for the storm from the east. The Mongols and the Timurids. When it comes to the world domination then you should advance to Asia minor towards Constantinople with one wing of your troops, and towards Cartage and Sicily with another wing. That way you are enveloping Europe in one giant pincer movement. And thats only the beginning. When you actually cross into Europe, the real war begins.

The late period units for the faction ie(gunpowder, melee, cavalry) need to be up to par.

Go with Hashishim and Mamluk Handgunners and Sudanese Gunners.
Cavalry units will be: Mamluks, Royal Mamluks, Sibyan al Khass, and Bedouin Camel Riders.

Starting position doesn't really matter but ah what the hell give me a good one.

Fatimids start from the very peculiar position, it allows you to expand and at the same time you are exposed to constant attacks and troubles.
Plus, you gonna love the Fatimid Architecture.

Enjoy,


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[Shoryn]

I'd say Poland or Kievan Rus... But Venice or Genoa have nice roster too (Monster Ribault *__*)

I thought of Sicily too though

[Mauzeer]

HVALA The Noble Lord, +Rep
my next faction will be Fatimids, never played muslim faction before

[strife1013]

I vote France as well!

[Nicholas H.C]

Aragon is a awesome faction to play with, once you have even half of Spain you become the richest faction

[Wolfgrin]

Aragon is a awesome faction to play with, once you have even half of Spain you become the richest faction

Not to mention their killer roster. In the Late Era, you can field your best armies from cities: Gendarmes heavy cav, tercio pikemen, sword & buckler men, musketeers (I think; might be getting them confused with Portuguese) and culverin artillery. Throw in some arrafet light cav from a castle and you're ready to rock and roll. Besides, the troops look GORGEOUS.

[HAMandCHEESE]

I would say the Spanish.

1.) They dont have spectacular early militia units, but their javelins can be devestating if used correctly in conjunction with spear militia.

2.)Given that you share a peninsula with Aragon, Portugal, and the Moors, it should be pretty interesting and challenging. Not to mention the French if they become powerful enough.

3.) dont really think I need to go into detail about their late period units.

4.) Their starting postion is bittersweet. It completely depends on how your campaign goes. If you get rid of the other factions on the peninsula relatively early, you have a powerful position in the mid-game. If you have trouble with them, you are in for a long haul. Its also great for crusades since you are so close to the sea.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

The Turks...*

Take Asia Minor and let the fun come to you. Push the Purple People Eaters back into the sea. If you get bored take the Black Sea area and the Great City.If you are patient enough to sit in Asia Minor/Black Sea til the gunpowder age things should get very interesting.

[Obliterate76]

Keep the ideas coming for other users now...I'm using the Fatimids (who own up). Appreciate all the help with my new campaign.

[The Noble Lord]

Keep the ideas coming for other users now...I'm using the Fatimids (who own up). Appreciate all the help with my new campaign.

Good luck with your campaign mate.

And also Fatimids are special when it comes to the religion. They are not Catholic, Orthodox, Sunni, Pagan, they are Ismaili Shia. It makes them unique in compare to other factions.


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