New Jewish Temple

**swhunter** · July 22, 2008, 04:10 PM

Are there any plans ?
A question was asked by a viewer

**dvk901** · July 22, 2008, 06:24 PM

Not sure what you mean? The Temple of Jerusalem is already in RS1.5, and will be in RS2.

**swhunter** · July 22, 2008, 06:32 PM

A viewer wanted to know if its going to be re modded.

**dvk901** · July 22, 2008, 09:05 PM

Doubtful to No.

**Squid** · July 23, 2008, 12:13 AM

Did the user mean modeled? If so it hasn't even been modeled in RS1.5.

**swhunter** · July 23, 2008, 12:20 PM

I checked last night .
Playing Egypt.
These is no Jewish temple in Jerusalem.
Unless you build it, from the smaller pagan temples, which doesn't make since.
So don't you think we should have one ?
It wasn't destroyed til 70 a.d.

**Gotthard** · July 23, 2008, 01:11 PM

Squid, we haven't decided what to do with the new wonders, right? MIght be cool if the temple of jerusalem was one... any way we cuold make it pop-upw hen it's rebuilt? (Similiar to the hanging gardens I think?)

If we do something else with them, like cultural or decoration, than nevermind, but I would like to have as many wonders on the map as possible.

**Squid** · July 23, 2008, 01:20 PM

The second temple was in existence at the time of our mod, so we wouldn't need it to pop up, but we'd still need someone to make the model. If we cancel out the model bonuses for the too powerful wonders, we could probably borrow Arthurian Total Wars Stonehenge models (I've inserted them into my personal copy as the eighth wonder on the map) to fill out to 9 wonders.

**swhunter** · July 23, 2008, 07:30 PM

I think that would be great.
Just don't have an Egyptian temple in Jerusalem.
Which i see.

**Mulattothrasher** · July 23, 2008, 08:39 PM

Honestly, I can relate to what SW is saying. I love Judeo-Christian history and that temple was, in part, the whole reason behind the Seleucid/Ptolemaic vs Maccabee/Judean zealot battles that might have been a sideshow, but a rather successful sideshow, in the histories of the both of those successor kingdoms. Good to know it'll be there in RS2

**dvk901** · July 23, 2008, 08:35 PM

The Temple of Jerusalem is too in the game (RS1.5), as I said. It is a 'monument', which can only be built in Jerusalem. You must have a proconsuls palace, build the 'base' and then you can build it. There is a hefty unhappiness penalty for the presence of any other temple in the city. This is in RS1.5.

I have already written a building tree for ALL of the wonders (plus some) in RS2.

**swhunter** · July 23, 2008, 10:47 PM

Not to disagree with you DVK, which this is the first time.
But it should be already there. Not to be built ! Historically speaking.
Thanks Mula ! My point exactly !

**dvk901** · July 24, 2008, 09:07 AM

Well, SW, what fun is that? The way I handled a lot of the Wonders and famous buildings in RS2 is that...if it's there already, you don't really 'build' it, but you maintain or restore it. If it isn't there and was destroyed, you rebuild it and restore it. The point is to give the player something to do......IMHO, a sense of purpose, acomplishing something. If it's just 'already there'....then you're like, "oh, that's nice"....and you go on and forget about it.

**apple** · July 24, 2008, 09:35 AM

I agree with Dvk.

**swhunter** · July 24, 2008, 12:22 PM

I can go with rebuilding it.
And if a certain faction takes Judea, they would have to.
If they tried to destroy it, and build their own factions gods, then you should have heavy displeasure on the happiness level.
So could there be a message card saying rebuilding or restore cost ?

**dvk901** · July 24, 2008, 01:33 PM

Perhaps you should start a campaign as Egypt or Seleucid and go there, take the city, and then see for yourself what happens.

**swhunter** · July 24, 2008, 01:36 PM

True i just might.

**Brusilov** · August 01, 2008, 05:37 PM

From my RS1.5a Pergamum Campaign.

Temple of Jerusalem;

Temple of Apollo (already built)

Great Temple of Apollo (being built)

Settlement details with Great Temple of Apollo being built;

Settlement details with Apollo temples removed;

**swhunter** · August 01, 2008, 06:25 PM

Thanks haven't got that far yet.
Which i never played the seleucides or Egypt.
So goes to show.

**Brusilov** · August 01, 2008, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by swhunter

Thanks haven't got that far yet.
Which i never played the seleucides or Egypt.
So goes to show.

No problems. I've started a Seleucid and Ptolemaic campaign but never managed to get very far with them.

It was only after reading this thread that I decided to destroy my own temples. Jerusalem was going to be a handful to govern. I don't tend to let settlements rebel to be able to slaughter the population as a means of keeping populations happy.