Noble Spoils

[Theodotos I]

All right, if this is yet another thing impossible within the MTW2 engine, please forgive me. I know very little about what is and is not moddable in MTW2. However, an idea occurred to me as I was reading through J.E. Lendon’s book Soldiers and Ghosts, and came across the treasured spolia opima, or “noble spoils”, a special honor for a Roman commander who had killed the opposing commander with his own hand.
Now, here is my question. Is it possible to determine in the battle engine, which unit killed the enemy general? If that is the case, could it be possible to trigger the trait of spolia opima if the friendly general’s bodyguard had killed the enemy general? Of course I realize this may be impossible, and indeed even if feasible would cause an unrealistic frequency of the trait, for it was only awarded once after 272 BC, to the Roman marshal Marcellus. Let me know your thoughts on this.
Thanks!

[Basil 11]

All right, if this is yet another thing impossible within the MTW2 engine, please forgive me. I know very little about what is and is not moddable in MTW2. However, an idea occurred to me as I was reading through J.E. Lendon’s book Soldiers and Ghosts, and came across the treasured spolia opima, or “noble spoils”, a special honor for a Roman commander who had killed the opposing commander with his own hand.
Now, here is my question. Is it possible to determine in the battle engine, which unit killed the enemy general? If that is the case, could it be possible to trigger the trait of spolia opima if the friendly general’s bodyguard had killed the enemy general? Of course I realize this may be impossible, and indeed even if feasible would cause an unrealistic frequency of the trait, for it was only awarded once after 272 BC, to the Roman marshal Marcellus. Let me know your thoughts on this.
Thanks!

Good idea... + rep

[Foot]

Its impossible. The engine doesn't record such a statistic afaik.

Foot

[BozosLiveHere]

Hmm...

[Foot]

Hmm...

Really? Bloody hell, thats impressive.

Foot

[BozosLiveHere]

It might not be functional, though. I'd have to test.

[Hax]

Foot works in mysterious ways.

[Theodotos I]

I suspected as much, although Bozoliveshere's comments intrigue me. Keep up the good work, team! Maybe something to keep in mind for EB III. . .

[Hax]

Let us all revel in his mighty Hmm!

[Theodotos I]

Yeah, I'd like to think something could come of this. . .

[Companion Cavalry]

This is a strange thread
So from what I can deduct, either there is no way to check if one general killed another in MTW2
or that devs have a warped sense of humour..

[Space Voyager]

Or some of the debate is going on behind the scenes.

[Theodotos I]

This is a strange thread
So from what I can deduct, either there is no way to check if one general killed another in MTW2
or that devs have a warped sense of humour..

I'm hoping they can do something with it, or at least think they can. To think that they're merely pulling our legs. . .

[Gaias]

I suppose they could do it in a general way. Say a percentage change if the opposing general is defeated. Probably would take some scripting to record the death of the enemy general, if that is all possible.

There are conditions in the EDCT that allow to track if the general was in combat and the number of kills. This is a part of a trigger in the Deus Lo Vult mod.

;------------------------------------------
Trigger battle3Chivalry_defensivewin
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition not WasAttacker
          and IsGeneral
          and BattleOdds < 0.5
          and BattleOdds > 0.05
          and GeneralFoughtInCombat
          and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 8
          and not Trait BattleDread > 0

    Affects BattleChivalry  1  Chance  85

Or maybe they could have this trait have a percentage if you manage to capture the general and decide to execute him. Maybe not the same thing that you are looking for but it could be an compromise.

But then again, I really don't know what or if any of this is possible. It's just all conjecture and theory on my part.