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    Alot of you may know that animals suffering really....gets my goolies.

    So, seriously, what the hell is the deal with animal cruelty? I'm not talking about stuff like slaughter houses and skinning animals and stuff like that, I'm talking about people buying like 15 cats, when they KNOW they can't take care of them, and making them live in their own piss and crap until the animal welfare comes and takes them away? Not only this, but giving them little to no food, it just makes no sense!

    You'd think that people who aren't able to take adequate care of 15 cats wouldn't go out and buy them!

    It's stupid, people are stupid. It's pointless and absoloutley horrible for the animals.

    I'd like you guys to share your views on people who do this kind of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear View Post
    people are stupid.
    pretty much it, but then again i could care less what people do to animals

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    I actually heard someone brag once about burying a cat leaving the head exposed, then mowing it over with a lawnmower. With these folks it''s Cats today & Kids tomarrow. I have two 25 cent solutions for these type of poeple. After the smoke clears we can all go to lunch and the world's a better place. There should be no room for cruelty in this world we live in. My solution is flawed, does anyone have a better one?

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    I Love dogs on a personal level, but I do not think that others should be forced to feel the way that I do. In essence, I do not believe in animal cruelty laws. I think that humans should be able to do whatever they please to lesser animals. I am sickened when I see abused dogs but I would never tell someone that they cannot do as they please with their own pets. As for cats and other animals though, I could care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Tortas View Post
    I actually heard someone brag once about burying a cat leaving the head exposed, then mowing it over with a lawnmower. With these folks it''s Cats today & Kids tomarrow. I have two 25 cent solutions for these type of poeple. After the smoke clears we can all go to lunch and the world's a better place. There should be no room for cruelty in this world we live in. My solution is flawed, does anyone have a better one?
    And you didnt kick his arse!?
    This man deserves to ing die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Tortas View Post
    I actually heard someone brag once about burying a cat leaving the head exposed, then mowing it over with a lawnmower. With these folks it''s Cats today & Kids tomarrow. I have two 25 cent solutions for these type of poeple. After the smoke clears we can all go to lunch and the world's a better place. There should be no room for cruelty in this world we live in. My solution is flawed, does anyone have a better one?
    I have to agree with Mega, today it's animals tomorrow it's their own children who suffer the abuse.....

    My wife an I were conversing this morning, and she mentioned the curse of the fathers being inherited by the children. This is something I could never get my mind around.......

    Why would the innocents be cursed because of their fathers. As we discussed it, it occurred to me, the curse isn't a judgment against the children, it a perpetuation of events. Just as children are taught by loving parents and in most cases try to use those teachings in bettering their lives and the lives of others. So to do children learn from bad parents.... This is a systemic problem with our world as a whole. But you can't deny evil people the right to procreate, unfortunately.

    What to do??? I personally find myself confronted with situations of inhumanity and injustice all too often. My solution has always been and continues to be..... Confronting the offending party on a personal level and pointing out the wrong they are involved in.

    Unfortunately most the people on our planet have nether the time nor inclination to do this. They prefer to sit back and watch in horror as these activities take place. Only finding their voices after the fact and at a safe distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Tortas View Post
    I actually heard someone brag once about burying a cat leaving the head exposed, then mowing it over with a lawnmower. With these folks it''s Cats today & Kids tomarrow. I have two 25 cent solutions for these type of poeple. After the smoke clears we can all go to lunch and the world's a better place. There should be no room for cruelty in this world we live in. My solution is flawed, does anyone have a better one?
    What a psycko. He should have his head run over by a lawnmower.

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    Why? What do you have against animals?
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    Oh man, I would never hesitate to tell someone I didn't approve if I saw them abusing a dog (or cat) - I mean, it IS illegal, despite what some people believe should be the case, and in my opinion only one step removed from abusing their kids. Hell, I meet a lot more people I don't like than dogs, so it's almost worse in a way

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    If your emotionally attached to a pet i guess you would be strongly against animal cruelty laws, But if you dont have one youd be more rational and could go either way.
    Hmm i think animal cruelty should be punished but not harshly, id rather violent people take it out on animals then other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    Hmm i think animal cruelty should be punished but not harshly, id rather violent people take it out on animals then other people.
    First they take it out on animals. who knows what might be next?
    I dont like cats, but that doesnt mean I kill them or bury them alive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    If your emotionally attached to a pet i guess you would be strongly against animal cruelty laws, But if you dont have one youd be more rational and could go either way.
    Hmm i think animal cruelty should be punished but not harshly, id rather violent people take it out on animals then other people.
    You do realise that 90% of serial killers were cruell to animals during their childhood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II View Post
    You do realise that 90% of serial killers were cruell to animals during their childhood?
    Very true. Dahmer had a habit of nailing squirels on trees when he was young.
    People who continue to do cruelty towards animals will no doubt take it one step further since one day it won't be fun to do it thus looking for the next big high.

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    Psh, let em take it out on each other, I say.

    Bring back dueling!

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    First they take it out on animals. who knows what might be next?
    I dont like cats, but that doesnt mean I kill them or bury them alive...
    Despite that, I dont think its justifiable to make it a felony or something.

    You do realise that 90% of serial killers were cruell to animals during their childhood
    Better then they beat up kids in their class in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    Better then they beat up kids in their class in my opinion.
    Hmm...if they dont beat kids that's because they are too weak for it. Taking out violence on animals doesn't solve the problem.
    Unnecessary violence has psychological causes which only grow that way.

    When you just wanna let off some steam, you can do sports which draw your energy, go boxing against a box-bag, or shot androids in Star wars Battlefront
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    Better then they beat up kids in their class in my opinion.
    You dont understand the sudle mind of a killer than.
    They take pleasure in inflicting extreame pain and killing living beings.
    Its not like those bullies that give other kids wegies, its more like the silent kids that dont talk to anyone.
    They allwayes have to start somewhere, and animals are the perfect vitims.
    Especially when no one gives a about them.

    Here's an interesting saying I heared ones: You can see how a country treates its peopple by looking at how they treat their animals.

    It starts from animal cruelty, it progreses into something bigger.....
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    This abuse will go on forever, Nuclear. I've worked in abottoirs & piggeries. I've raised chooks and had to kill them. But I'm a pet lover, for sure. Currently we have a cat, 3 guinea pigs, 3 mice, a budgie and fish.

    You know, some women have been arrested in my country recently for having malnutritioned children living in filth. This is in a 'first world' country with welfare and groups like the Salvation Army and St.Vincent de Paul as institutions.

    You can't stop it. Some morons will always see other living things as 'playthings' or something else just to feed their own wants moreso than in the interests of the animals themselves.

    The abottoir/piggery workers I worked with were a hard bunch of men & women, but they wouldn't accept any unnecessary abuse or sadism. And most of them had dogs and other pets they loved.

    It's just the half-wits who think a miniature poodle is a fashion item handbag like with Paris Hilton. Or the selfish women who pump out children so they can get welfare benefits and then....let them starve.

    These people have mental problems. They are capable of seeing another living thing as merely an extension of their own egos, rather than as entities in their own right.

    Feel pity for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    This abuse will go on forever, Nuclear. I've worked in abottoirs & piggeries. I've raised chooks and had to kill them. But I'm a pet lover, for sure. Currently we have a cat, 3 guinea pigs, 3 mice, a budgie and fish.

    You know, some women have been arrested in my country recently for having malnutritioned children living in filth. This is in a 'first world' country with welfare and groups like the Salvation Army and St.Vincent de Paul as institutions.

    You can't stop it. Some morons will always see other living things as 'playthings' or something else just to feed their own wants moreso than in the interests of the animals themselves.

    The abottoir/piggery workers I worked with were a hard bunch of men & women, but they wouldn't accept any unnecessary abuse or sadism. And most of them had dogs and other pets they loved.

    It's just the half-wits who think a miniature poodle is a fashion item handbag like with Paris Hilton. Or the selfish women who pump out children so they can get welfare benefits and then....let them starve.

    These people have mental problems. They are capable of seeing another living thing as merely an extension of their own egos, rather than as entities in their own right.

    Feel pity for them.
    :/ Yea but the chooks being killed have a purpose for dying, it's not just "I feel like being a dickhead, lets abuse an animal!"

    They seriously arrested a woman in a first world country for having malnutritioned kids? That's kind of stupid.

    I Love dogs on a personal level, but I do not think that others should be forced to feel the way that I do. In essence, I do not believe in animal cruelty laws. I think that humans should be able to do whatever they please to lesser animals. I am sickened when I see abused dogs but I would never tell someone that they cannot do as they please with their own pets. As for cats and other animals though, I could care less.
    This has nothing to do with love, it's treating another living thing in a matter which they completely do not deserve, no matter what they did. Look me in the eye and HONESTLY tell me that you don't think someone should be punished for burying a kitten and running over it with a lawnmower.

    And it is true that 90% of Serial Killers abused animals in their childhood. And Roy said that he'd prefer them abuse animals than little kids in the classroom, which is probably true, except for the fact that often little classroom kids deserve it, how does a little kitten deserve it?

    I've also heard of a person who had a fish, took it out of its tank until it was almost dead, put it in it's tank for about 10 seconds, took it back out until it was almost dead and lather, rinse, repeat. Just for the hell of it.
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    I Love dogs on a personal level, but I do not think that others should be forced to feel the way that I do. In essence, I do not believe in animal cruelty laws. I think that humans should be able to do whatever they please to lesser animals. I am sickened when I see abused dogs but I would never tell someone that they cannot do as they please with their own pets. As for cats and other animals though, I could care less.
    I disagree entirely with this 'anything goes' sort of approach, Boof. I know what you mean, but I think that avoiding any responsibility as a society for the needless suffering of animals (and I'm speaking entirely independently of the food industry, here, I mean animal abuse, especially in domestic households) by pointing to our position as a species allowing us to do what we please is a cop-out, honestly.
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