Uniforms why this way?

Right I said this already that I am disappointed by the generic appearance of the uniforms, there is also no reason for me to think that other factions or other units that we have not seen will be any different.

Obviously there are a myriad of reasons why you could justify this approach I will leave those excuses to someone else.

Now why? And considering that this period has literally a treasure trove of colors and designs would CA go for this generic look?

One example is this rifle unit that appears to be some version of the 95th

Screen shot:http://www.totalwar-zone.de/games/et...rd=screenshots


Actual 95th rifle unit:http://www.mont-saint-jean.com/cent_...p?uniformes=43


It appears that in this case CA have gone for the officers uniform and put this on the ordinary soldiers, they then ignored the bugler from that rifle unit and used another style of bugler from a different rifle unit. The officer appears to be some sort of pirate have no idea whats happening there.

These officers and buglers are then used as far as I can tell by other units and also different factions (color change) so overall you have this generic look throughout the battlefield.

In affect you have made and then reproduced inappropriate uniforms for certain units and then by applying this to different factions you have compounded your error.

In this screen you have a version of what is almost certainly a dismounted British Dragoon

http://www.pcgamer.se/bilder/arkiv/u...pba36vws98.jpg

and in this shot you seem to have its alternative faction version.

http://www.totalwar-zone.de/games/et...rd=screenshots


With an engine that can render such beautiful screen shots why would you not try and reproduce accurately some of the many uniforms available. I appreciate that this can be modded but its a bit
of a lame excuse for not doing it yourself.

Some people have criticized seeing two different uniforms from two different periods alongside each other, that does not bother me too much, its seeing the wrong types of uniforms full stop.

I Actually agree with you,Historical accuracy is very importent

This unit not exists never,It is a mixture of hussar and infantry,the fantasies of CA,antihistorical .

Mhm I have to agree, the Riflemen look -somewhat- accurate but the Officers...?
It would just annoy me at the back of the mind looking at units I know arent correct.

Edit": Although they could be actually a different unit standing right in front? Still unsure what they're supposed to be though in that case.

@ Anibal at portas for some reason I knew I could count on your support.

But remember it's still a long way to go until the release.

Yeah, and considering the 95th rifles weren’t a unit when this game is set, all the units look the same for each faction, and the officer and trumpeter look stupit....I’m a little disappointed .

the problem of the totalwar saga is that exists a lot of public teenager
with the shogun, the graphs were in the third plane,the strategy an the history in first plane,then the player were an adult public,understood with the strategy and the history.
from the rome,We take the handicad and disadvantage of public teenager that alone wants visual showiness in the games.
the veteran players of shogun,adult public many of them,we are isolated between so much players teenager.

Originally Posted by Anibal at portas

the problem of the totalwar saga is that exists a lot of public teenager
with the shogun, the graphs were in the third plane,the strategy an the history in first plane,then the player were an adult public,understood with the strategy and the history.
from the rome,We take the handicad and disadvantage of public teenager that alone wants visual showiness in the games.
the veteran players of shogun,adult public many of them,we are isolated between so much players teenager.

bro seriously, do you have a grudge on CA and Sega?seroiusly dude all your posts contain complaints. wow just because its alittle unhistorical dsnt mean its not going to be fun.Isnt that the point of the game?!to have fun and rewright history?

Okay, let's get back on topic please and recall that the game is not out yet so we cannot really say what the final uniforms will look like. Happy fuzzy kittens and cheerful butterflies.

Devoirs The Empress

They should be careful with the soldiers uniforms, they could've made them to look like the uniforms of the 1700s. The uniforms from the pics up there look like the uniforms of the Napoleonic wars.
Remember the uniforms from the 1700s??
The soldiers or at least officers should have wigs!!!



CHEERS

Originally Posted by Anibal at portas

with the shogun, the graphs were in the third plane,the strategy an the history in first plane

Shogun was as historical as RTW.
See my post here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...4&postcount=28
Frankly, all this complaints about the uniforms and canteens is absolutely nothing compared to the stupid Geishas&Ninjas and fantasy units in Shogun.

And the graphics of Shogun was the best at that time.
It may look crappy now, but in 2000 that was the best they could have made.
Shogun was the only game at that time that had thousands of soldiers on screen.

Originally Posted by Knight of cydonia

Yeah, and considering the 95th rifles weren’t a unit when this game is set, all the units look the same for each faction, and the officer and trumpeter look stupit....I’m a little disappointed .

That's true but to be honest I'm personally fine with them slipping in the formation of the Rifles a little early, it's a damn useful unit to have. Dont want all my men to be line infantry and Cav.

Anyway havent they said the game will go up to the Napolianic wars? Which if I'm not mistaken they very much existed in.

Originally Posted by Modestus

It appears that in this case CA have gone for the officers uniform and put this on the ordinary soldiers

I think it's for a similar reason that the Scots were Braveheart rip offs in M2TW and our tutor in RTW was doing a Russel Crowe impression. They're all dressed like Sharpe. Wouldn't be suprised if we see colonial militia armed with dual wielding tomahawks.

some of you guys on these forums are so pathetic on this, you take one screenshot or one piece of information about the game and suggest that if the hat isn't the right way round or if a cuff link is out of place this game wont be fun. Its a game, Creative Assembly try very very hard to be as historical as they can be while still making the game fun and enjoyable for those who don't have degrees in 17th Century Warfare. Some of you seem to want a game that is completely 100 percent historical and to be quite honest the huge majority of gamers don't care and wouldn't buy the game if it was as it would probably bore the hell out of most people. If you want a game that is ridiculously historical then fine make it yourself because publishers wont get good money to make it because no one would buy it so please its still over 6 months from release these are screen shots just to show roughly what it looks like are not final, so please get over yourselves and wait till the game is released and then you can have a go at it for slightly anti historical but it will be fun and enjoyable to play so most people wont care. My 2 pence.

Originally Posted by AcidJiles

some of you guys on these forums are so pathetic on this, you take one screenshot or one piece of information about the game and suggest that if the hat isn't the right way round or if a cuff link is out of place this game wont be fun. Its a game, Creative Assembly try very very hard to be as historical as they can be while still making the game fun and enjoyable for those who don't have degrees in 17th Century Warfare. Some of you seem to want a game that is completely 100 percent historical and to be quite honest the huge majority of gamers don't care and wouldn't buy the game if it was as it would probably bore the hell out of most people. If you want a game that is ridiculously historical then fine make it yourself because publishers wont get good money to make it because no one would buy it so please its still over 6 months from release these are screen shots just to show roughly what it looks like are not final, so please get over yourselves and wait till the game is released and then you can have a go at it for slightly anti historical but it will be fun and enjoyable to play so most people wont care. My 2 pence.

If you hadn't disabled rep I would hit that big green + button.

Originally Posted by Mikey

If you hadn't disabled rep I would hit that big green + button.

didn't know I had disabled it, but thank you for your agreement. How do I turn it back on?

Well,I don't take it so serious.
But i'm a bit disapointed. Though i still have hope !

AcidJiles, sorry but i dont really see how historical uniforms would make the game boring or anything. And mods like EB and RTR showed that historical accuracy is neither boring nor neccesarily unpopular.

And i dont think anyone here is complaining about tiny little details, while i dont know anything about this unit, the comments suggest that the whole uniform is completely wrong.
So it's probably like displaying all US soldiers in some modern Wargame as clicheed vietnam style GIs.

Originally Posted by Salazar

AcidJiles, sorry but i dont really see how historical uniforms would make the game boring or anything. And mods like EB and RTR showed that historical accuracy is neither boring nor neccesarily unpopular.

And i dont think anyone here is complaining about tiny little details, while i dont know anything about this unit, the comments suggest that the whole uniform is completely wrong.
So it's probably like displaying all US soldiers in some modern Wargame as clicheed vietnam style GIs.

my response is after dozen of threads on equally spurious grounds and so is more a comment to all the threads rather than this one specifically.