rider of a elephant thingy

[ceaser543]

Hello I was wandering who rides the mumakil things in the films because it would be cool if mordor could have them as well as harad.

[Varjon]

Hello I was wandering who rides the mumakil things in the films because it would be cool if mordor could have them as well as harad.

Mûmakil will be for Harad only because Mordor would be little too overpowered with mûmakils.

[ceaser543]

ok but who actauly ride them in the films

[Varjon]

ok but who actauly ride them in the films

Probably chieftains of Haradrim or men from Harad who were trained to ride mûmakils.

[lord0thief]

Mûmakil will be for Harad only because Mordor would be little too overpowered with mûmakils.

well... orcs are going to be in large numbers, but also relatively weak right? compared to gondorian footmen

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Shiftains of Haradrim ride cavalry not mumakills in book

[ceaser543]

KK thanks for anwsering my question.

[ccllnply]

In the books, wasn't Harad more like an Empire then a Chiefdom? Thats the impression I got anyway

[Amroth]

In the books, wasn't Harad more like an Empire then a Chiefdom? Thats the impression I got anyway

In the books it's said that there were many different kingdoms in the South. Here's the quote:

'Tis said that there were dealings of old between Gondor and the kingdoms of the Harad in the Far South; though there was never friendship. In those days our bounds were away south beyond the mouths of Anduin, and Umbar, the nearest of their realms, acknowledged our sway.'

[ccllnply]

I see. But they still weren't tribes, right?

[Darth Ravenous]

They were most like the cities of old england during the roman invasion. They were not all together but during times of intense war they could appoint a single leader to rule all the cities and lead the army to war.

[Amroth]

I see. But they still weren't tribes, right?

Some were probably tribes, some more "advanced", especially those who came into contact with, and were ruled by, the Black Númenóreans. There's a lot of 'probablies' and speculation here as Tolkien never described them in depth.

They were most like the cities of old england during the roman invasion. They were not all together but during times of intense war they could appoint a single leader to rule all the cities and lead the army to war.

I'd say that's speculation.

[Code_Knight]

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[2-D Ron]

They were most like the cities of old england during the roman invasion. They were not all together but during times of intense war they could appoint a single leader to rule all the cities and lead the army to war.

So they're more like Medieval Islamic Tribes answering the call of a Holy War.
Might want to give Harad the Jihad ability with Dark Priests.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

<Shved> don't want to include any priests in game (

[Roger the Shrubber]

What about orc, Uruk-Hai or goblin shahman's they are not exactley preists?

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Priests is class of agents ). <Shved> don't want thenm in game. I'm trying to make him change his mind. But up till now in vain

[Roger the Shrubber]

Damn, they would add another dimension to this mod, rather like the mages and such in LOTR:Conquest.

[The Count(er)]

well since priests main function is to convert religion or in our case it would be the population's race I think it makes sense not to include them saying that a single person couldn't change a notable percent of a city's population under any circumstances I can come up with

[Roger the Shrubber]

I was meaning more of a mage/shahman kind of thing.