Israel

[attilavolciak07]

Israel

[Farnan]

Sources, sources, sources.

The devil is in the sources.

Also, which forum do you want this in?

Cross-posting is not done here.

[attilavolciak07]

Sources, sources, sources.

The devil is in the sources.

Also, which forum do you want this in?

Cross-posting is not done here.

Sorry I was meant to put it in this one but clicked on the other one and didn't notice it

[roy34543]

Any facts except ranting? do you want to solidify your argument or will you just make a fool of yourself? Or even worse are you going to be one of those OPs who posts a flame and then is never seen again?
Also i wouldnt exactly use mandela as a basis of an argument. He did kill quite a bit of innocent people.
Edit: I checked, and he actually has a semi-positive view of Israel today. So i cant see where your coming from.

[attilavolciak07]

Any facts except ranting? do you want to solidify your argument or will you just make a fool of yourself? Or even worse are you going to be one of those OPs who posts a flame and then is never seen again?
Also i wouldnt exactly use mandela as a basis of an argument. He did kill quite a bit of innocent people.

Here ya go http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
wats an op, sorry kinda a noob
yes i know he did, but he is so revered by americans, africans

[danzig]

Here ya go http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
wats an op, sorry kinda a noob
yes i know he did, but he is so revered by americans, africans

Ah yes a nice source which clearly has no agenda.... Sorry but your argument along with linking to that site has been done here before, please try something else so we dont have to all go thru this again.

[attilavolciak07]

Ah yes a nice source which clearly has no agenda.... Sorry but your argument along with linking to that site has been done here before, please try something else so we dont have to all go thru this again.

Look through un resolutions against israel that israel and the us ignored, for example you have to treat occupied people with everything that you would treat your own peole with including pows

So what you are saying is American's general view disagrees with yours.....well congrats for that revelation!

Want a history,

israel becames friends with usa because we needed a country near egpty because of their soviet influence in cold war. israel is a puppet of the us, america cant abandon israel because they will have broken un laws

[danzig]

Israel is just like the Nazis becuase of the way they treat the Palestinians. They even brand them so they know they aren't Jewish. Israelis are given 80% of the power in a town so in a small town I found while rsearching has a population of 60,000 Palestinains and 800 Israelis, 80 percent goes to the 800 Israelis. Absolutely stupid!!!!
Nelson Mandela said in a speech in the nineties that Israel is an evil country.

this is not discrimination against jews but against the israeli government.
I just want the people to know these facts because the american public never get to see them because of the gov

How exactly do american public "not get to see" this? Last time I checked we have access to every bit of media in the world if we want it...perhaps its just many of us disagree with your nonsense of labeling Israel as "just like the Nazis".

[Rush Limbaugh]

Israel is just like the Nazis becuase of the way they treat the Palestinians.

What a load of horse manure

Did the Jews ever attack the Germans? Theres good reason why the Israelis treat the Palestinians that way. No other nation on earth would treat them as kindly. If anyone did that to the US we would invade them tommorow.

[BoJaN]

What a load of horse manure

Did the Jews ever attack the Germans?

Yes..Financially!

[jermagon]

What a load of horse manure

Did the Jews ever attack the Germans? Theres good reason why the Israelis treat the Palestinians that way. No other nation on earth would treat them as kindly. If anyone did that to the US we would invade them tommorow.

they would do if there was an 'Israel'' state in 1939

[Valentin the II]

they would do if there was an 'Israel'' state in 1939

They wouldnt go around blowing up busses (trains, for that time period) though.

[Каие]

What a load of horse manure

Did the Jews ever attack the Germans? Theres good reason why the Israelis treat the Palestinians that way. No other nation on earth would treat them as kindly. If anyone did that to the US we would invade them tommorow.

The Israelis did invade the Palestinians, the war is now a revolution. Last time i checked the Palestinians have never invaded Israel.

[Valentin the II]

i pritty much blame the british empire for this one, another cock up, just kicking aload of people out of them homes, nice one.

No one was kicked out.
The only time palestinians were forced to leave theyr homes was in some extreame cases during the war of indipendence, wich was not started by Israel.

Although the brits are partly to blaim for allowing an extreamely racist arab into politics as the MUFTY OF JERUSALEM.
The grand mufty inflamed the local palestinians with false rumors, and started this whole conflict in the first place.
Now THAT was a cockup.

future note: dont let racist into ofice.

To be honest, I find it quite pathetic that people here portray Israel as the victim.

No actually they are.
The whole conflict was started by the palestinians and was prolonged due to theyr continued agression towards the jewish setlment.
Israel won, but it doesnt mean they are the agresors!

The Israelis did invade the Palestinians, the war is now a revolution. Last time i checked the Palestinians have never invaded Israel.

Need I remind you of the war of indipendence? (and any other war that started due to arab agression)

[Nikitn]

No actually they are.
The whole conflict was started by the palestinians and was prolonged due to theyr continued agression towards the jewish setlment. Israel won, but it doesnt mean they are the agresors!

Are you seriously joking? After the 1948 war Israel took and occupied several palestinian terretories. And they still keep the majority of those terretories. Tell me how, exactly, the civillian population of Palestine attacked Israel? Israel is the real agressor here, not the Palestinians.

Need I remind you of the war of indipendence? (and any other war that started due to arab agression)

Nobody wanted the Israelis there in the first place. I agree, Israel did destroy the arabs, but they also occupied several arab terretories. And they still keep them. This is how the Israeli goverment is agressive against the Palestinian people.

[attilavolciak07]

How exactly do american public "not get to see" this? Last time I checked we have access to every bit of media in the world if we want it...perhaps its just many of us disagree with your nonsense of labeling Israel as "just like the Nazis".

America ,as you know, is very very supportive of Israel. Israel officials come here to make Israel seem nice and friendly. I have seen many commercials supporting israel

[danzig]

America ,as you know, is very very supportive of Israel. Israel officials come here to make Israel seem nice and friendly. I have seen many commercials supporting israel

So what you are saying is American's general view disagrees with yours.....well congrats for that revelation!

[danzig]

Want a history,

Thanks I know the history and I certainly wouldnt listen to someone who declares a state is just like the nazis. Next time you start a thread and you want to have a serious discussion try doing so in a manner that doesnt start off with pure nonsense. Ive engaged in this topic numerous times here and I have no desire to have it yet again with another person who is going to engage in melodramatic nonsense so Im out. Ill leave that to others but frankly I think everyone in this thread should just ignore your posts and let this nonsense die right here, right now.

[attilavolciak07]

Thanks I know the history and I certainly wouldnt listen to someone who declares a state is just like the nazis. Next time you start a thread and you want to have a serious discussion try doing so in a manner that doesnt start off with pure nonsense. Ive engaged in this topic numerous times here and I have no desire to have it yet again with another person who is going to engage in melodramatic nonsense so Im out. Ill leave that to others but frankly I think everyone in this thread should just ignore your posts and let this nonsense die right here, right now.

I started a petition three years ago! we have 56,000 signers
this is what i mean about peole not wanting to listen to this stuff, if it is against israel they dont ant to hear it.

Yes..Financially!

in germany in the 30s a jewish man assasinated a fench embassy official that started kristallnact

look at the words around it, he is beong sarcastic

[Carach]

America ,as you know, is very very supportive of Israel. Israel officials come here to make Israel seem nice and friendly. I have seen many commercials supporting israel

thats nice. Im british and still think ur OP is a load of shite.