Discussion on what the new Facion should be

**RVFVS** · July 15, 2008, 05:58 PM

Who should the new Faction be?

Byzantine Empire

Republic of Venice

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 06:13 PM

:hmmm:

Well, in the post in the YATS forums in which you proposed this revival, you said that one faction would be a kingdom/empire and one would be a democracy/republic... the best republican governments I can think of in MIITW are Milan and Venice, as they both originally elected a doge from their representative council (Milan later turned it into a duchy)...

Hey, why not have our factions as Venice and the Byzantines? One empire, one democratic nation - both relatively close to each other and, in real life and usually in MIITW, enemies.

So... Venice and Byzantium?

**RVFVS** · July 15, 2008, 06:23 PM

May I add we are using the mod STAINLESS STEEL 4.1. And Im not 100% sure Falco is gonna join with me. For now we are assuming that Falco isnt joining.

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 06:29 PM

*shakes head at my own inexperience with any mods*

Ummm... are both Venice and Byzantium in SS? I thought they were...

**Confederate Jeb** · July 15, 2008, 06:33 PM

SS 6.1 has both of them.

Sorry for saying that again Caesar.

**~~Pompey117~~** · July 15, 2008, 06:40 PM

Venice and Byzitante (or howerver you say it) are in there

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 07:07 PM

Great... so that's my suggestion, then, Venice and the Byzantine Empire.

**RVFVS** · July 15, 2008, 07:36 PM

ok but we need more suggestions so I will begin a list.

**RVFVS** · July 15, 2008, 08:11 PM

We need to find out a faction in at least two days.

So so far we have

Venice

Byzantines

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 08:16 PM

Why not throw in England, they seem to be pretty popular and they're very medieval.

**RVFVS** · July 15, 2008, 08:19 PM

True but then we would have one king for life. And the only prob with that is we are going by term time (2 weeks per year)

**townie33** · July 15, 2008, 08:19 PM

Why not use one of the Italian factions? I would think that the italian peninsula has the most politics crammed in such a small area and there are always different areas to expand.

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar226

True but then we would have one king for life. And the only prob with that is we are going by term time (2 weeks per year)

True, true... but wouldn't that be the case for most of the kingdoms/monarchies as well? ... Oh, I have a massive idea regarding that, but I'll post it in the 'Suggestions' thread.

Originally Posted by townie33

Why not use one of the Italian factions? I would think that the italian peninsula has the most politics crammed in such a small area and there are always different areas to expand.

Good idea. Venice, Genoa, Sicily, anyone?

Out of those three, I would say Sicily would be the best, because of its location, the fact that it starts with four settlements, and that we could expand in virtually any direction that we desired. So, if you would, Caesar, put Sicily on the list.

EDIT: Just realized that I, as KnightOfSicily, suggested Sicily.

**townie33** · July 15, 2008, 08:48 PM

I think sicily would be a great idea but 4 settlements? is this in a SS mod?

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 08:50 PM

Yep, SS 4.1. Caesar mentioned a possible switch to 6.1, but that might arise a problem as not everybody might have Kingdoms. But as for now, SS 4.1, I believe.

**townie33** · July 15, 2008, 08:55 PM

ok, i will have to download that version then

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 08:58 PM

So will I, lol. I'm getting a new computer shortly because, frankly, this one would probably crash if I attempted to download something as massive as Stainless Steel appears to be.

k, so far we've got:

Venice
Byzantium
Sicily

Why not turn this into a poll, with every faction as an option, and we'll see where that goes to?

**townie33** · July 15, 2008, 09:02 PM

sounds good to me, how come we haven't suggested a Islamic faction? I bet the Turks would be interesting

**KoS** · July 15, 2008, 09:08 PM

Yeah, let's vary it up a bit... why not throw the Turks' name into the hat?

Possible Factions Thus Far

The Byzantine Empire (is it called the Byzantine or Eastern Roman Empire in SS?)
The Most Serene Republic of Venice
The Republic of Genoa
The Kingdom of Sicily
The Seljuk Turks

How about Spain or Portugal as well, because of their good locations, mixes of Arab and European cultures, and diverse selection of units?

**Celsius** · July 15, 2008, 09:32 PM

Turks might be too controversial. With the Islamic vs Christianity, i see bad things in the future if this happens.

But i say lets throw england in there. we can always kinda change it were we a have a king for certain period, then another for a certain amount of time and so on.

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