Worst/unless Units

[Random Emperor]

what you think is the worst units in Kingdoms??

excues me if there was other thread like this

p.s. plz don't add units from vanilla

[Poach]

Clerics for the Teutonic Order. I've never seen a use for them except as cheap garrison units.

[sparty]

Clerics for the Teutonic Order. I've never seen a use for them except as cheap garrison units.

I agree completely. I looked at em and was like...why?

I put them in a battle and didn't notice any improvement in my troops, but then again maybe I'm just clueless!

[Xamt]

Clerics for the Teutonic Order. I've never seen a use for them except as cheap garrison units.

actually, clerics are not meant to actually fight, they are meant to keep the rest of your army fighting...

i always include a cleric in any teutonic army i use and always keep 1 of the garrisoned in a city i think the enemy might siege

they have really low recruitment and upkeep cost and they keep my men fighting to the last, which in my book is worth it

i dont think there is actually a worse unit in kingdoms, maybe units people never use, but that doesnt mean they dont have a use (look at a thread about armies of peasants defeating the mongols!)

having said that, i dispise gunners of any sort.... like surgeon said their range is way too low and the only use i have found for them is having them defend walls during sieges, they have decent armor and if the enemy is using ladders they can get off a couple of volleys which destroy enemy morale... however if the enemy is using siege towers or siege engines they arent of much use :/

[Insurgent]

For the price, Gwent raiders. They're weak and cost a lot, although they do look cool.

[SuperStick]

Clerics for the Teutonic Order. I've never seen a use for them except as cheap garrison units.

I actually think Clerics are pretty good cuz they seem to own calvary in meele

[knight of virtue and valor]

gweant raiders, way too expensive for how crappy they are!

[Surgeon]

Templar Gunners. Their attack is lower than Templar Crossbows and their range is even shorter than Sodeer Archers. The small effect they have on morale is simply not worth it when the enemy horse archers are pelting you from twice the range you can muster.

[alhoon]

Templar Gunners.

Agreed. They're more of a joke than a ranged unit.

[Subu'atai]

Pilgrims, ew

[xzyx]

Pilgrims, ew

pilgrims (and religious fanatics and other similar crusade mercs) are actually the best unit ever---they got a good morale and they are so crappy you never mind if they are killed...on vanilla one of my best strategies was to hire an army of pilgrims, merc cavalry orcrap cavalry (like my old horsemen that are now useless because of new technology like mailed knights agter getting feudal knights) and defeat whole balanced armies who were actually superior in numbers and in power with them. Don't ask me how, but pilgrims always seems to defeat dismounted feudal knights in face to face. at least for me.


now the most useless unit ever: peasants (they are in kingdoms too before you complain)... they suck to fight, have no defense, and rout just by thinking on the enemy...I usually disband them as they do more hurt than good in my army (routing decreases morale in other troops).
I'm gonna be criticezed, but someone's gotta say it: other really useless unit is the dismounted ritterbruder. It has some of the best stats in the game and he's extremely cool an powerfull, and routs almost as easy as a peasant. I mean I've seen my dism. ritterbruder rout with 30 men left and being pursued by a mix of peasants and the lithuaniam spear militia (don't remember the name). After that, I uninstalled teutonic...

[snuggans]

pilgrims (and religious fanatics and other similar crusade mercs) are actually the best unit ever---they got a good morale and they are so crappy you never mind if they are killed...on vanilla one of my best strategies was to hire an army of pilgrims, merc cavalry orcrap cavalry (like my old horsemen that are now useless because of new technology like mailed knights agter getting feudal knights) and defeat whole balanced armies who were actually superior in numbers and in power with them. Don't ask me how, but pilgrims always seems to defeat dismounted feudal knights in face to face. at least for me.

pilgrims do not kill dismounted feudal knights 1 on 1.

[alhoon]

Yes, but the "lock" them, giving time for the knights to charge them from the back.

[roy34543]

These guys

[roy34543]

Syrian militia is so much worse. They cant kill ANYTHING. They dont even have the fast-attack of peasents! if you attack them from the back where the shield isnt applicable they only have 3 armor!

[spartan117]

Syrian militia is so much worse. They cant kill ANYTHING. They dont even have the fast-attack of peasents! if you attack them from the back where the shield isnt applicable they only have 3 armor!

hmmm....

I havent played the Crusades Campaign in some time but I distinctly remember that there arent exactly many units that have the free upkeep attribute. I think the syrian militia was one of the few which did. So that alone is worth something.

[Carl von Döbeln]

Gwent raiders and Syrian Militia

[Panzerbear]

Gwent raiders and Syrian Militia

I absolutely agree. in fact, Gwent raiders definitely take the top spot for units that suck. expensive elite looking infantry when in real battle they are complete unreliable POS.

[Insurgent]

I absolutely agree. in fact, Gwent raiders definitely take the top spot for units that suck. expensive elite looking infantry when in real battle they are complete unreliable POS.

They can't even beat highlanders . I think it's because they lack shields that they suck so much.

Edit: I did another test and they lost to one unit of the Irish Ceitherne! The Ceitherne are around 80 florins cheaper and they routed my Gwent raiders easily! WTF CA! They should make a patch especially to fix these guys!

[man]

scots pike militia- they cant even kill cav
edessan guard are quite useless too agreed they dont rout too much but they cany even kill 1 unit of pronoa infantry!!!! i think the 2H bug is respponsible for that tho