Female Generals

[sparty]

How will you handle Asha, Dany, & the Sand Snakes?

I'm just curious how that'll work because I'm assuming that even if you gave them female names and portraits the game would still treat them as male without some modifications.

[aeoleron9]

AFAIK, these are some solutions for girls like Asha, Arianne and even Mormont she-bears (maybe Arya too?)

1. Put them in as generals, so they can fight and become faction leaders. But add something like the Secretly Female trait from vanilla priests, and give them negative fertility. The system will still force them to marry some girl, but they won't produce an heir.

2. Put them in as princesses, ignoring their war capabilities and strong will. We could make some princess traits to compensate(dominating_woman or sth) but I think it's still going to be pretty disappointing.

3. Put them in as ancillaries. The last and least preferable solution.

[sparty]

I like Option 1 because I don't see a way around making women generals...

[cossacks368]

some images

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[TheKingSlayer]

Hey Cossacks, on behalf of the team, thanks a lot man. I'm sure Game and the boys will like those.

[sparty]

Neat. Has a kind of Anime feel to it though which may or may not be consistent with the artwork included, but those are very cool regardless.

[BattleDrumz]

I think we should use the one in your signature

seriously though, thanks for the pics. I'm not sure what Gampie's plans on female characters are, but those pics may very well come of use.

Cheers

[YANZHAOYINGYANG]

[bobby.tables]

AFAIR it is not possible to assign the priests trait "secretly female" to a general. you could only build a new trait and copy the effects. a pretty simple solution for daenerys BTW is to make drogo female and kill him by script at the beginning of the campaign. you can think of similar solutions for the other females, so the would have dead unnamed male "wives" (OMG, that reads really weird). ok it is not like in the books but its a pretty simple and not too obtrusive way to get the marriage problem out of your way.

[aeoleron9]

Interesting concept bobby, yeah I think that could work. The male wives don't even need to be dead, for girls like Asha and Arianne, so they could have kids. They just need to have custom guy portraits.

[bobby.tables]

thanks :-). the only reason i would let them die is that i cannot imagine one of the ladys being married or having kids. i mean, if the guy is so weak that he stays at home with the kids (hello, it's the middle ages! feminism has still a long way to go) none of the girls would EVER marry him. on the other hand if he is strong enough to "master" her, she would no longer be general. the only thing that would make sense would be something like a one-night-stand ... but that doesn't sound right. so i would kill the guy and even use a completely black custom portrait.

BTW when i tried to mod that in m2tw i found no other way to assign a custom portrait to a dead person but create him as living and kill him immediately at the start of the campaign by script.

[Tsarevna]

I thought there was a way to make female generals in RTW? Wasn't Boadicea in some campaign or other? They certainly had models for the female captains of units with the Amazons (rebels.)

I thought I saw Boadicea as a great general in that game, might as well be researched. Maybe it would be reproducible in MTW?

[Double A]

no, you're thinking of the History Channel's copy of the game.

[jhnatko]

I agree with bobby.tables post from 8/11/08; it was the first thing I thought of. You could even make creative names for the female general's "wives" such as Brienne being married to "Love of Renly" or Asha being married to "Drowned God." As far as preventing them from having children, these fictitious "wives" could be dead or have zero fertility.

[stormbringer951]

First beta release is coming soon. The female generals will NOT be in it. Maybe in a later release, but at the moment, only me, aeoleron and TKS are active, so we're going to release you lot a little present...

[The Hound]

FIRST BETA RELEASE!!!!!!! YES!!!! I go on a week vacation starting sept 27th if you tell me the beta will be out by/around then your going to make me a happy happy man!!

[stormbringer951]

Very soon. Me and aeoleron9 have taken action, as the rest of us are really busy (in fact, I think we're both really busy as well), so we're throwing you a first release while we polish it up for gold on a more relaxed timescale (as appears to be the plan).

Release by next week hopefully.

[sirfiggin]

Could you have a trait that allows female generals to marry male princes? It would be a matter of appearance more than anything, maybe they could get a With Child trait when pregnant?

[stormbringer951]

Nope. Good idea, but I think it's out of the game's mechanics...

[gotthammer]

New here...and my first post would be: Asha for Queen!