Converting buildings

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 09, 2008, 08:59 PM

Ok this one has me stumped.

There is a mod using my barebones mod folder as a base. Half of the factions cannot convert a city to a castle, the other half can. All factions are the same culture, northern_european.

All settlement entries in descr_strat are identical.

I have two versions of the entire mod folder. 1 from before the factions were renamed, one after the factions have been renamed. Both versions have this problem.

The EDB is a vanilla copy, except where faction names have been changed.

I downloaded my barebones mod folder, and tested two of the factions involved, England and Spain. Both can converty city to castle and vice versa.

So I copied that EDB into both versions of the mod that I have, one from before renaming factions, one after. Both still have the same problem.

If I switch ownership in descr_strat, same problem, only reversed.

Where else would I need to look?

**Eothese** · July 10, 2008, 01:22 PM

Did you change your re-nammed factions right at the bottom of EDB? Where the Building convert to castle line is? Eg.

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**GrnEyedDvl** · July 10, 2008, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Eothese

Did you change your re-nammed factions right at the bottom of EDB? Where the Building convert to castle line is? Eg.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Yes, and as I said it was happening in two different mod folders. 1 before the names were changed, one after.

**Dimitri_Harkov** · July 10, 2008, 01:43 PM

True.

While one could assume that all factions could 'build' the conversion 'building' if all cultures are listed under 'factions', that seems not to be the case.

I had a similar problem and Eothese's method worked for me.

Cheers,
D.

**SigniferOne** · July 10, 2008, 07:04 PM

GED, let's keep it simple. Let's deal only with the pre-renamed mod, because the less subsequent changes the better.

So we've got the pre-renamed mod in our hands (heretofore refered to as just the mod).

Double-check that the "convert-to" buildings in this mod have the proper faction ownership. Make sure it has the right 'convert-to' graphic in its buildings folder.

Afterwards, please post the non-working EDB from this mod (in spoilers), and the descr_cultures.txt.

This should be a cinch to resolve.

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 10, 2008, 08:23 PM

Yeah I thought it should be a cinch too lol

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 10, 2008, 08:32 PM

Ok here is the EDB.

The convert_to lines are done by culture, not by faction. All factions are the same culture.

The cultures are default cultures, these are vanilla files. There isnt even a descr_cultures in the mod folder with the factions un-renamed.

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 10, 2008, 10:10 PM

Ok well I may have shed a little light on this, but the implications are not good.

First, since there have been no faction changes at all in the folder I am working with, I re-unpacked M2TW and replaced the EDB with the vanilla M2 EDB. Same problem.

However I am now getting these lines in the error log. This is in the folder with the vanilla factions.

19:59:18.859 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/1066 conquests/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 5456, column 2
Building DB error - faction spain has gap in building prior to royal_armoury
19:59:18.859 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/1066 conquests/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 5456, column 2
Building DB error - faction spain has gap in building prior to armoury
19:59:18.859 [data.invalid] [error] Target building level not allowed: Spain, citadel -> city, castle_barracks[4](armoury) -> barracks[3](militia_drill_square)

In the folder with the renamed factions, spain has been renamed to irish:

20:14:30.625 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/1066 conquests/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 5465, column 2
Building DB error - faction irish has gap in building prior to royal_armoury
20:14:30.625 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/1066 conquests/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 5465, column 2
Building DB error - faction irish has gap in building prior to armoury
20:14:30.625 [data.invalid] [error] Target building level not allowed: Irish, citadel -> city, castle_barracks[4](armoury) -> barracks[3](militia_drill_square)

Note that the line the error is reported on is actually the last line of the file, not anywhere close to the convert_to barracks section. The difference in the number of lines reported is the gate_defences (boiling oil) added to the Kingdoms version. I have tried it with and without that line, same error.

Now remember this is a VANILLA file. I do not get this error running vanilla. This file is also in my barebones mod folder, but I do not get the error there either.

The difference between the modded folders and vanilla are the map and regions, and the user interface, and some text changes. This is actually kinda weird.

This line tells me that it wants to be able to convert a citadel to a city

and then convert castle_barracks (tree) armoury (building)

into barracks(tree) militia_drill_square(building)

20:14:30.625 [data.invalid] [error] Target building level not allowed: Irish, citadel -> city, castle_barracks[4](armoury) -> barracks[3](militia_drill_square)

So we are going from castle_barracks level 4 to barracks level 3.

If we go to the building castle_barracks section of the EDB, line 1296, there are 5 levels listed right under the convert_to barracks line:

mustering_hall garrison_quarters drill_square barracks armoury

castle_barracks(4) is number 4, remember it starts counting at 0

Removing all the convert_to lines I still cant convert, but the convert_to error is gone, leaving only the other two errors:

20:49:02.640 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/1066 conquests/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 5057, column 2
Building DB error - faction irish has gap in building prior to royal_armoury
20:49:02.640 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/1066 conquests/data/export_descr_buildings.txt, at line 5057, column 2
Building DB error - faction irish has gap in building prior to armoury

Thats an error reported in two different trees, the first is the barracks tree which is:

levels town_watch town_guard city_watch militia_drill_square militia_barracks army_barracks royal_armoury

It claims there is a gap there, but I do not get the error in vanilla, nor when playign with the factions that can actually convert. Same thing with the castle_barracks tree.

Removing the trees completely still doesnt let me convert.

I think I will start the EDB from scratch.

**Gigantus** · July 11, 2008, 04:44 AM

Code:

        large_castle_to_city castle requires factions { denmark, hre, scotland, france, england, mesoamerican, middle_eastern, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, }

No Irish! No north-european culture! Same here:

Code:

        city_watch city requires factions { denmark, hre, france, scotland, england, middle_eastern, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, }

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 11, 2008, 03:23 PM

I dont know where you pulled those from, but its definitely not the same thing I am looking at.

The vanilla file core_castle_building starts at line 226. I have highlighted the northern_european culture listed in the convert line.

If it was reading whatever file you posted, the other 3 factions wouldnt convert either.

The Irish not showing up is expected, thats one of the renamed factions in the 2nd mod folder. It doesnt work as the original faction either.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Ok I found what you are looking at, the building convert_to_castle and building convert_to_city entries at the bottom of the EDB. For the hell of it I changed those entries to ALL, same results.

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 11, 2008, 09:41 PM

I solved this by rebuilding the entire mod folder from scratch. I dont know what the problem was, but I am assuming a typo someplace kept it from reading something properly.

Thanks for the time everyone.

**Gigantus** · July 12, 2008, 12:42 AM

One very common mistake is the comma after the last entry of the requirement, seeing that most modders place their entry there:

Code:

requires factions { northern_european, mesoamerican, middle_eastern, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, }

or the spacing at the end of that line. This can easily be checked with the search function

I think I used the EDB that you provided in the post above.

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 12, 2008, 12:53 AM

Yeah I know, but like I said the file worked in the barebones mod folder, just not the other mod folder. I think it was something else.

**Gigantus** · July 12, 2008, 02:02 AM

In that case something linked to it didn't work. Can only think of the descr_sm_factions file, changed entry there. Changed once the culture for one faction and had an error log a mile long, complaining about all these gaps in the building line and not being able to convert. Extremely tedious and time consuming to trace, the line given is usually the last line of the EDB. And if you find the start of the error everything else simply vanishes due to the domino effect. Can't convert - can't build - can' recruit; that's my steps of checking the errors.

Can't convert from city to castle and vice versa is a common error and causes the rest of the errors. NOT building - CONVERTING. I am not at my machine, but I remember that section being nearly at the bottom of the EDB, before the pagan temple.

**GrnEyedDvl** · July 12, 2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by gigantus

In that case something linked to it didn't work. Can only think of the descr_sm_factions file, changed entry there. Changed once the culture for one faction and had an error log a mile long, complaining about all these gaps in the building line and not being able to convert. Extremely tedious and time consuming to trace, the line given is usually the last line of the EDB. And if you find the start of the error everything else simply vanishes due to the domino effect. Can't convert - can't build - can' recruit; that's my steps of checking the errors.

Yeah I dont know where the typo was, but it caused a big headache. usually I find them pretty fast, just not this time. Rebuilding the mod folder was probably the fastest way to solve it.

Can't convert from city to castle and vice versa is a common error and causes the rest of the errors. NOT building - CONVERTING. I am not at my machine, but I remember that section being nearly at the bottom of the EDB, before the pagan temple.

The section you quoted is at the end, but I am converting just fine by leaving that alone. On to bigger and better things I spose.

**uanime5** · July 14, 2008, 06:41 AM

I had a similar problem to this. The error log said that there was a gap in the Moor's tech tree at the bottom of EBU that prevented the Moors converting their buildings. This was caused by a 'convert_to' command for a city building that didn't have a castle counter part.

Your problem is that 'Spain' is listed as a faction that can build the Royal Armoury but it can't build the three building before it. Just delete Spain from the faction list and repeat for all the other building errors. Ignore the line number and examine the buildings themselves.