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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7496216.stm

    quote from there -
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    The Vatican has said that the Church of England's vote for women bishops will be an "obstacle" to reconciliation between Anglicans and Catholics.
    what do the religious types out there think of this?

    personally, despite disagreeing with having women bishops, i find it hilarious that the vatican is still capable of such pettiness

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    But in May, the Vatican issued a decree which vowed to punish attempts in the Roman Catholic church to ordain women priests with automatic excommunication.
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    The Vatican has always hoped for an Anglican reunification for all the obvious reasons. Are you surprised the Vatican is against female bishops? What did the orthodox Church say? Do any of the Islamic sects approve of female ministers?

    Why is it hilarious? The Vatican makes similar statements concerning women in religion every year. Is it funny because you did not know that Anglicanism is Catholicism with the words England and Monarch thrown in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGness View Post
    Why is it hilarious? The Vatican makes similar statements concerning women in religion every year. Is it funny because you did not know that Anglicanism is Catholicism with the words England and Monarch thrown in?
    Are u aware of the history with England and Catholicism? the differences between the 2 groups? Anglicanism certainly isnt 'catholicism with the words england and monarch thrown in'

    Its hilarious because in this day and age the vatican still finds the time to be arrogent, as if we want a reunification anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    Its hilarious because in this day and age the vatican still finds the time to be arrogent, as if we want a reunification anyway....
    Actually plenty in the Anglican community do, there has been considerable reproachment in recent years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    Are u aware of the history with England and Catholicism? the differences between the 2 groups? Anglicanism certainly isnt 'catholicism with the words england and monarch thrown in'

    Its hilarious because in this day and age the vatican still finds the time to be arrogent, as if we want a reunification anyway....
    What are the differences between anglicanism and catholicism.
    In many respects, there are no differences between the two churches.
    http://anglicansonline.org/resources...C-diffEng.html

    But, since you believe there are many significant differences, why don't you explain to me what those differences are, otherwise, silence is golden.


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    Actually plenty in the Anglican community do, there has been considerable reproachment in recent years.
    I think there were even preliminary talks with Jan Pawel 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syron View Post
    Actually plenty in the Anglican community do, there has been considerable reproachment in recent years.
    Yep, "High Anglicanism" is basically Catholicism without the Pope. It's not surprise that every now and then some disgruntled Anglican clerics leave the Communion and "re"-join the Church.

    About the Catholic Church being arrogant... Well, it's the largest body of organized religion in the world - and probably the richest too, considering that the Basilica's walls are sprayed with gold. The Priesthood talks about humility, but the Catholic church is the very embodiment of "Olde Worlde" Establishment.
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    Kind of like how freedom of expression is an obstacle between democracy and fascism. If you don't like it then you can shove your obstacle up your arse.

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    Freedom of expression is an obstacle between populace and government.

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    Bah, it was an analogy. If female bishops is an obstacle then the relationship is unwanted.

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    Ahh good to see people are keeping up the age old traditions of mysoginy

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    Gynophobes, Catholics, the lot of em.

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    Well, give that the vatican makes a fuss about almost anything, this news, quite frankly, comes as little surprise to me.

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    sexism much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus1234 View Post
    sexism much?
    its catholicism, equality doesnt come into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    its catholicism, equality doesnt come into it.
    Name a couple of institutions of comparable size where equality does come into it?

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    Can Anglican Priests Marry?

    Also, wouldn't it be Bishopess?

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    What's the big deal?

    Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and a lot (but not most, mind you) of other religions discriminate against women because they say they are weak, inferior, and well not male.

    So they're still hanging on to traditions from thousands of years ago, what's new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljaden View Post
    What's the big deal?

    Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and a lot (but not most, mind you) of other religions discriminate against women because they say they are weak, inferior, and well not male.

    So they're still hanging on to traditions from thousands of years ago, what's new?
    we're finally in an age where we realize women are just as important as men, thats new
    actually, in my readings of the old testament, new testament, and the qur'ran, nothing is described about women being inferior (now these werent deep readings at all, mind you) except for maybe eve being made out of adam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus1234 View Post
    in my readings of the old testament, new testament, and the qur'ran, nothing is described about women being inferior (now these werent deep readings at all, mind you) except for maybe eve being made out of adam
    How deep and extensive were your readings? All religions are very much geared towards men.
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