Adding Canons of Sepulchre to HRE/st. John

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 08, 2008, 10:52 AM

I've been trying to add the Canons of The Holy Sepulchre to the Hospitallers guild, and the hospitallers guild to the HRE, but I get a CTD , so I must have made a mistake somewhere.
could anyone help me out? (this is in stainless steel 6.1, which is why at "ownership" there are 2 eras)

At every file, I'l first show you the original, and then the one where I added something, which will be with thick letters.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

First, in Descr_buildings, I changed

Code:

building guild_st_johns_chapter_house
{
    convert_to guild_st_johns_chapter_house
    levels st_johns_minor_ch st_johns_major_ch st_johns_hq 
    {
        st_johns_minor_ch  requires factions { england, france, scotland, denmark, norway, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, knights_templar, } 
        {
            convert_to 0
            capability
            {
                recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.25   1  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, knights_templar, }
                recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.25   2  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, knights_templar, }  
                population_health_bonus bonus 1
            }
            material stone
            construction  1 
            cost  1000 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
                st_johns_major_ch
            }
        }
        st_johns_major_ch  requires factions { england, france, scotland, denmark, norway, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, knights_templar, } 
        {
            convert_to 1
            capability
            {
                recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.25   2  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, knights_templar, } 
                recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.34   2  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, knights_templar, } 
                population_health_bonus bonus 2
            }
            material stone
            construction  1 
            cost  2000 
            settlement_min large_city
            upgrades
            {
                st_johns_hq
            }
        }
        st_johns_hq  requires factions { england, france, scotland, denmark, norway, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, knights_templar, } 
        {
            convert_to 2
            capability
            {
                recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.34   3  1  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, knights_templar, } 
                recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.34   3  1  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, knights_templar, } 
                population_health_bonus bonus 3
            }
            material stone
            construction  1 
            cost  3000 
            settlement_min large_city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }

To:

Code:

building guild_st_johns_chapter_house
{
    convert_to guild_st_johns_chapter_house
    levels st_johns_minor_ch st_johns_major_ch st_johns_hq 
    {
        st_johns_minor_ch  requires factions { england, france, scotland, denmark, norway, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, hre, knights_templar, } 
        {
            convert_to 0
            capability
            {
                recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.25   1  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, hre, knights_templar, }
                recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.25   2  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, hre, knights_templar, }
                recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher"  1   0.15   1  1  requires factions { jerusalem, hre, }
        population_health_bonus bonus 1
            }
            material stone
            construction  1 
            cost  1000 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
                st_johns_major_ch
            }
        }
        st_johns_major_ch  requires factions { england, france, scotland, denmark, norway, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, hre, knights_templar, } 
        {
            convert_to 1
            capability
            {
                recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.25   2  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, hre, knights_templar, } 
                recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.34   2  0  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, hre, knights_templar, }
        recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher"  1   0.15   1  1  requires factions { jerusalem, hre, } 
                population_health_bonus bonus 2
            }
            material stone
            construction  1 
            cost  2000 
            settlement_min large_city
            upgrades
            {
                st_johns_hq
            }
        }
        st_johns_hq  requires factions { england, france, scotland, denmark, norway, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, hre, knights_templar, } 
        {
            convert_to 2
            capability
            {
                recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.34   3  1  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, hre, knights_templar, } 
                recruit_pool "Dismounted Knights Hospitaller"  1   0.34   3  1  requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, norway, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, hre, knights_templar, } 
                recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher"  1   0.15   1  1  requires factions { jerusalem, hre, }
        population_health_bonus bonus 3
            }
            material stone
            construction  1 
            cost  3000 
            settlement_min large_city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }

as you can see, I added the Canons under the Hospitallers.

That is the first part, I think it's allright.

Then, in export_descr_units, I changed

Code:

type             Canons of the Holy Sepulcher
dictionary       Canons_of_the_Holy_Sepulcher      ; Canons of the Holy Sepulcher, o
category         infantry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
accent         German
banner faction   main_hospitaller
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Zweihander, 48, 0, 1.2
officer          Dismounted_Knights_of_Jerusalem
officer          northern_captain_early_flag
officer          northern_captain_early_flag
mount_effect     horse +1, camel +1
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw
formation        1.2, 0, 2.4, 2.4, 3, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         11, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 15, 1
;stat_pri_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  5, 7, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental      20, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 6
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        5, 890, 200, 90, 70, 890, 4, 170
armour_ug_levels 2, 3
armour_ug_models Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher, Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher_ug1
ownership        jerusalem
era 0            jerusalem
era 1            jerusalem
recruit_priority_offset    20

To:

Code:

type             Canons of the Holy Sepulcher
dictionary       Canons_of_the_Holy_Sepulcher      ; Canons of the Holy Sepulcher, o
category         infantry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
accent         German
banner faction   main_hospitaller
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Zweihander, 48, 0, 1.2
officer          Dismounted_Knights_of_Jerusalem
officer          northern_captain_early_flag
officer          northern_captain_early_flag
mount_effect     horse +1, camel +1
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw
formation        1.2, 0, 2.4, 2.4, 3, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         11, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 15, 1
;stat_pri_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  5, 7, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental      20, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 6
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        5, 890, 200, 90, 70, 890, 4, 170
armour_ug_levels 2, 3
armour_ug_models Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher, Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher_ug1
ownership        jerusalem, hre 
era 0            jerusalem, hre
era 1            jerusalem, hre
recruit_priority_offset    20

Lastly, in Battle_models.modeldb, I changed

Code:

16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
28 canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher 
1 4 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod0.mesh 121 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod1.mesh 900 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod2.mesh 2500 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod3.mesh 6400 
1 
9 jerusalem 
71 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Standard_hospitaller.texture 
66 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Standard_normal.texture 
60 unit_sprites/antioch_Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher_sprite.spr 
1 
9 jerusalem 
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_antioch_diff.texture 
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_antioch_norm.texture 0  
1 4 None 
16 MTW2_2HSwordsman 0  2 
24 MTW2_2HSwordsman_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 0

To:

Code:

16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
28 canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher 
1 4 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod0.mesh 121 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod1.mesh 900 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod2.mesh 2500 
69 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/canons_of_the_holy_sepulcher_lod3.mesh 6400 
2 
9 jerusalem 
71 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Standard_hospitaller.texture 
66 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Standard_normal.texture 
60 unit_sprites/antioch_Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher_sprite.spr 
3 hre 
71 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Standard_hospitaller.texture 
66 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Standard_normal.texture 
60 unit_sprites/antioch_Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher_sprite.spr 
2 
9 jerusalem 
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_antioch_diff.texture 
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_antioch_norm.texture 0  
3 hre 
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_antioch_diff.texture 
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_antioch_norm.texture 0  
1 4 None 
16 MTW2_2HSwordsman 0  2 
24 MTW2_2HSwordsman_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 0

Could anyone help me out? I'd appreciate a blanket or some food in my journey through the first steps of modding

Edit: wrapped it in a spoiler tag, as it makes the post quite long

**Gigantus** · July 08, 2008, 12:01 PM

Code:

 recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher"  1   0.15   1  1  requires factions { jerusalem, hre, }

Comma missing after hre, don't forget a space after the comma. Compare with the end of the line above this entry.

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 08, 2008, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by gigantus

Code:

 recruit_pool "Canons of the Holy Sepulcher"  1   0.15   1  1  requires factions { jerusalem, hre, }

Comma missing after hre, don't forget a space after the comma. Compare with the end of the line above this entry.

Put the comma and spaces, but still a CTD, another mistake somewhere... anyone?

**Gigantus** · July 08, 2008, 09:27 PM

Put them in every line it was missing?

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by gigantus

Put them in every line it was missing?

I did thatin Descr_buildings, but in export_descr_units you're not supposed to have comma's and spaces after the last faction, I checked it at the other units that had multiple factions

**OTZ** · July 09, 2008, 08:16 AM

What does your log file say?

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 08:27 AM

I can't check for at least half an hour. I uninstalled the old Pro deo et rege 1.0 I still had on my computer, but like last time, this has also removed all kinds of pictures and backgrounds. so I'l reinstall, and then I'l post here what the log says. good idea though

, dammmit why I didn't I think of the log?!

**OTZ** · July 09, 2008, 08:39 AM

Also - was it an unspecified error, or a plain old CTD?

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 12:08 PM

It was a "plain old" CTD
The system log doesn't display anything. except for the problems I had with PDER. but I deleted those, and even after CTD-ing again, nothing in system log. I'm talking about the log in sega/medieval2, but I couldn't find a log in the sega/medieval2/mods/stainlesssteel6 folder.

Ps: Of course, I made back-ups so I can still play whenever I want. maybe I shouldn't add the guild to the hre, but instead, only add the canons to the guild, and put the faction I'll play in modeldb, so that faction doesn't have invisible units.

**OTZ** · July 09, 2008, 12:23 PM

well, if it was a plain CTD, the last couple lines of your log file "should" indicate what the error is.

Here's my suggestion - go with your thought on removing hre from the guild, and removing the unit from the guild as well.

Launch the game. If it CTD's then the error is either with the EDU file (which from what I can tell looks good) or the model file (I can't tell if all the syntax is correct - there has to be at least one space at the end of every line.)

Simply use the process of elimination for error checking. If you limit it to EDU and the Model file, you'll have less error checking to do.

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 12:34 PM

I did what you said, so I left the Descr_buildings unchanged, and played a custom battle. I picked 2 Canons units for the HRE, one with armour upgrade, and that one is invisible, so there must be a mistake in the model file as well. it didn't CTD though, so the real problem must be in Descr_buildings. I'l upload the screenshot in a minute. I still have to give them unit cards, but that won't be a problem.

edit: uploading isn't working so well, but could the problem be that the ownership factions in Descr_buildings are not all in the same order?
The picture: http://www.filefrog.net/images/art24720.jpg

**OTZ** · July 09, 2008, 12:58 PM

ahhh, I missed it before, but you need to add the model entry for this: Canons_Of_The_Holy_Sepulcher_ug1

That'll take care of the invisible unit...

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 01:01 PM

Allright thanks, so that's the invisible unit. I'l go over EDB as well, but I think you've got more experience with that file.
edit: I forgot giving you reputation, here it is!

**OTZ** · July 09, 2008, 01:10 PM

Well, I think the EDB file looks ok - at least at first glance.
Do the other units that are recruitable by the hre (knights hospitaller, dkh) have the requisite model and EDU entries as well?

edit - thanks for the rep - not needed, but I'll take it!

I know how frustrating it can be to get modded files to work...

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 01:35 PM

Do the other units that are recruitable by the hre (knights hospitaller, dkh) have the requisite model and EDU entries as well?

Yes, I think that might be the problem. 10 minutes ago, I added Musketeers with milanese textures to France's last city barracks, and everything works fine. so the problem must be the other hospitallers units.

1) Are these changes save compatible? if they're not, I'l forget about HRE and start adding units to France, because I'm not planning on restarting my HRE campaign for the Canons.
2) are musketeers simply stronger arquebusiers? if so, can I use the arquebusier textures on the Musketeers for france?

Thanks again, you've been a great help, I understand how it works now.

**OTZ** · July 09, 2008, 01:51 PM

I think they are save-game compatible, but I'm not 100%. I'd just add the Canons to a barracks building and see if they're recruitable - if not, then your question is answered.

#2) You can use any texture you want - as long as they are similar (ie come from the same texture folder).

In your example, the Arq texture is RN_Light_Lmail_, and so is the Musketeer texture, so you would have no problems using:

6 france
72 unit_models/_Units/RN_Light_Lmail/textures/RN_Light_Lmail_france.texture
72 unit_models/_Units/RN_Light_Lmail/textures/RN_Light_Lmail_normal.texture

on both soldier models

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 02:10 PM

New problem though, when you check the unit discription (where it tells you about the unit, and shows it's attack, armour ,defense etc.)
there is still a peasant picture. even though I already added a working unit card. can I fix this somewhere as well?

Edit: screenshot:

**OTZ** · July 09, 2008, 02:14 PM

Did you add the info card as well?

ui/unit_info/<faction>

**Groenepuntmuts** · July 09, 2008, 02:28 PM

Thanks again! I'm all set now. I'l add a few more units and I'l play my best campaign ever. rep for OTZ And Gigantus!

Edit: by the way, its only half save-compatible. I tested it by adding forlorn hope to a city hall (they're supposed to be trained in the higher level mayors palace) , and altough they do show up on the building browser, you can't actually train them. at least not in settlements that already had the building, I haven't tryed yet by building a new city hall.

Edit2: It seems adding mounted units is a bit harder. I've succesfully added Canons and musketeers, the musketeers with french arq. texture, but reiters make the game CTD.
again, the log file displays nothing. under the reiters in modeldb, there's a bit about horses, I added france there too, maybe I'm not supposed to do so?