Issue with the settlement images

[SigniferOne]

I'm somewhat stumped by this problem. Also since our mod involves changing so much of the game, I haven't seen many others encounter this problem yet.

Settlement images are the graphics you see when you right-click on your Settlements tab, next to all of the settlements, and representing each city's size. These images, from "village" to "fortress", are specified by culture, in the /city/ folders: e.g. /ui/southern_european/cities/.

For some reason the game refuses to load these graphics for our mod. As people are probably aware, we've replaced all of the vanilla cultures with our own, and I had put the respective settlement images in each of the proper /cities/ folders. Here's the game caching the settlement graphics in their respective locations:




In other words, the game is aware that all the respective graphics are there for each culture. Yet when I load up the game with any of the cultures, say the Gauls, it loads up the incorrect, vanilla, graphics:

[TheFirstONeill]

I feel kinda lame asking this but have you updated desc_cultures to map the cultures buildings to the images ??


cheers
Jason

[SigniferOne]

Here is my descr_cultures.txt, where all the settlement cards are modified:




Yet when the game proceeds to show the images, it loads only the generic ones. Here is the very end of my log file, right after I right-click on the Settlements tab. It loads only the generic files for my settlement, without even looking if the culture's own images are present:

[TheFirstONeill]

have you put files in the contructed folder >?
(woo woo 100th post)

[SigniferOne]

Of course:




The thing is, in the log above it doesn't even try to get the local images; and failing that to go to the generic. It simply goes straight to the generic.

[Gigantus]

You might want to give 'descr_ui_buildings.txt' a try. There you can add lookup variants for these files. It might help as southern_european is the default. I had some success by entering a line like this:
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ookup_variants
{
anglo_saxon northern_european

[SigniferOne]

How does it work, exactly? At first glance it seems to be only meant for temples.

[Gigantus]

How does it work, exactly? At first glance it seems to be only meant for temples.

It works for the UI images, you can refer to cultures and individual images.

[GrnEyedDvl]

Here is a shot of the mod I used for the cultures tutorial. As you can see it has the default RTW barracks for all buildings, I havent placed any building images in the cultures folder yet, but it does show the proper settlement images because the cities folder has been done.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Now I figured out I can break this by having the wrong faction listed as teh founder in descr_regions. Check descr_regions and see if one of the gallic factions is listed there, or if its a faction you havent created all the buildings and stuff for yet.

Also check the faction_creator line in descr_strat.

[SigniferOne]

Now I figured out I can break this by having the wrong faction listed as teh founder in descr_regions. Check descr_regions and see if one of the gallic factions is listed there, or if its a faction you havent created all the buildings and stuff for yet.

Also check the faction_creator line in descr_strat.

Ah, GED to the rescue! How is anyone supposed to know what founder faction does? What the heck does it do anyway? Arghs. Same with faction_creator. This isn't generally the case, but sometimes there's one or two some pointless parameters that completely throw a person off.

[GrnEyedDvl]

Ah, GED to the rescue! How is anyone supposed to know what founder faction does? What the heck does it do anyway? Arghs. Same with faction_creator. This isn't generally the case, but sometimes there's one or two some pointless parameters that completely throw a person off.

Did that fix it??

The entry in descr_regions is the preferred settlement owner, all others get a public order penalty, though I am not sure where that number comes frm.

The entry in descr_strat sets the settlements starting culture. As most settlements are owned by slaves at the beginning of the game, it lets you assign a culture to the settlement but still have the slave faction cover all cultures.

[SigniferOne]

Yes, the faction_creator fixed it for me. For the time being, I specified a generic faction_creator for all provinces in the game (for debugging purposes); it pulled generic images for the city in the province, and also displayed generic 3d settlement models. I changed one Gallic province to have itself as its faction_creator, which pulled the proper Gallic settlement graphic, and also displayed the appropriate 3d city model.

I guess it all makes sense at the end of the day, but only a psychic (or GED) would know how the hell to get there at the start.

[GrnEyedDvl]

I would explain to you how I knew that, but its rather embarrasing lol

[SigniferOne]

It's more embarassing that I didn't know it, such a simple thing. Meanwhile I could wax poetical about abstruse animation skeletons and variations. That's life I guess.

[Gigantus]

The faction creator also determines the campaign map display of the settlement, eg middle_eastern faction = like Alexandria, northern_european faction = London.