Victory Conditions

[The Sixth Wizard]

I apologize if this has been touched upon before.

Just playing Sicilian Vespers 2.5 now, and I noticed that the Victory Conditions are very specific. Like, 11 regions including three specific ones, etc. So I was thinking about victory conditions for this mod.

Obviously what I think needs to be remembered in the mod is that not all factions are created equal. Just because in M2TW there's a 45 region goal for every faction doesn't mean that it should be the same for Third Age.

For example, the Elves would be a weaker faction, due to their backwards nature. I think they should start out strongest at the start of the game (that's just me). Victory conditions might include taking key enemy settlements for a certain number of turns instead of a large region goal. Dwarves too should have specific, often far-separated goals such as the Blue Mountains, Misty Mountains, various Goblin cities and other regions they held historically.

However, other Mannish factions who are on the rise instead of declining should have less specific but more substantial goals. For example, the Kingdom of Dale should extend their control over Rhovanion, Mirkwood and Rhun before they can win. Evil factions who spawn orcs should need a larger number of settlements before they can win as well.

Is it possible to set other victory conditions such as a large treasury, population or military?

[The Count(er)]

click here and here's good too

[Krechet(SiCh)]

In some modes like Ogniem i Mechem such Victory Conditions allready realized. It's not hard to do

[Varjon]

Dwarves should conquer at least all their ancient cities which they don't control at the time, that includes every settlement in Misty Mountains and Ered Mithrin

Silvan Elves should conquer Fangorn and all settlements in Mirkwood and maybe some other forest territories

[Eleril]

High Elves-outlast or destroy the following factions:Mordor,Isengard,Orcs of the MM;hold x regions including Eregion
Sylvan Elves-outlast or destroy the following factions:Orcs of the MM;Mordor;hold x settlements including Dol Guldur
Gondor-outlast or destroy the following factions:Mordor,Isengard,Rhun,Harad;hold x settlements including Umbar;hold the region of Ithilien(or if it is split in two-South Ithilien and North Ithilien)
Rohan-outlast or destroy the following factions-Isengard;Rhun;hold x settlements including Isengard and the Dunland settlements in Minhiriath
Dwarves-outlast or destroy the following factions:Rhun,Orcs of the MM;hold x settlements including Moria,Gundabad;Goblin city;Ered Mithrim
Kingdom of Dale-outlast or destroy the following factions:Rhun;hold x settlements including Dale,Esgartoh
Mordor-destroy the following factions:Gondor.Rohan,Sylvan elves;hold x settlements including Minas Tirith,Edoras,Caras Galadhon
Isengard-destroy the following factions:Rohan,High Elves,Sylvan Elves;hold x settlements including Edoras,Helm's Deep,Imladris
Orcs of the MM-destroy the following factions:High Elves,Sylvan elves,House of Durin;hold x settlements including Imladris,Erebor
Rhun-destroy or outlast the following factions:House of Durin,Dale,Rohan,Sylvan elves;hold x settlements including Erebor,Dale,Esgaroth
Harad-destroy the following factions:Gondro,Rohan;hold x settlements including Minas Tirith,Umbar

[The Count(er)]

High Elves-outlast or destroy the following factions:Mordor,Isengard,Orcs of the MM;hold x regions including Eregion

Sylvan Elves-outlast or destroy the following factions:Orcs of the MM;Mordor;hold x settlements including Dol Guldur

Gondor-outlast or destroy the following factions:Mordor,Isengard,Rhun,Harad;hold x settlements including Umbar;hold the region of Ithilien(or if it is split in two-South Ithilien and North Ithilien)

Rohan-outlast or destroy the following factions-Isengard;Rhun;hold x settlements including Isengard and the Dunland settlements in Minhiriath

Dwarves-outlast or destroy the following factions:Rhun,Orcs of the MM;hold x settlements including Moria,Gundabad;Goblin city;Ered Mithrim

Kingdom of Dale-outlast or destroy the following factions:Rhun;hold x settlements including Dale,Esgartoh

Mordor-destroy the following factions:Gondor.Rohan,Sylvan elves;hold x settlements including Minas Tirith,Edoras,Caras Galadhon

Isengard-destroy the following factions:Rohan,High Elves,Sylvan Elves;hold x settlements including Edoras,Helm's Deep,Imladris

Orcs of the MM-destroy the following factions:High Elves,Sylvan elves,House of Durin;hold x settlements including Imladris,Erebor

Rhun-destroy or outlast the following factions:House of Durin,Dale,Rohan,Sylvan elves;hold x settlements including Erebor,Dale,Esgaroth

Harad-destroy the following factions:Gondro,Rohan;hold x settlements including Minas Tirith,Umbar

there that version doesn't hurt my eyes
also maybe the dwarves shouldn't need to outlast or destroy Rhun saying dwarves aren't the type to be going out that far without any mountains or gold to be found there and maybe don't make it so Gondor has to outlast/destroy Isenguard and instead make that more of Rohan's problem

[Varjon]

I just have to agree with you, good list!

Though I would also add destroying of High Elves to victory conditions of Mordor, after all Sauron hated them even more than dúnedain.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Think about one more thing: victory conditions should be comply not only with books but with complicacy level of playing current faction too

[Code_Knight]

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