So where do I get the vanilla mod?

**Wizzerdrix** · July 06, 2008, 07:36 PM

Ive been poking around this site for some time and have messed around with the original campaign and the clouds across Europe mod. I was wondering where you get that vanilla mod everyone is talking about? I've tried searching all over this place and all over google, i did my best to find an answer before i posted but all i found was people talking about it who have already got it and are casually mentioning it like getting it was as easy as tying your shoes. Little help?:hmmm:

**Glowboy** · July 06, 2008, 07:38 PM

When you hear people taking about vanilla M2TW they refer to a un-modded version of the game.

**Confederate Jeb** · July 06, 2008, 07:40 PM

If you have Medieval 2: Total War and have done nothing to the game codes, then that is vanilla. The original, plain version. Mods add to this/ change this.

**Wizzerdrix** · July 06, 2008, 07:58 PM

D'oh *slaps forehead*. Thanks guys

Any mods you can recommend then? Besides "clouds across europe"? I know i can go to the mod forum and see what has gotten the most downloads, but any personal suggestions?

**Glowboy** · July 06, 2008, 08:01 PM

You could try SS 6.1 if you have kingdoms or SS 4.1 if you don't I would also recommend BC or Broken Crescent, for M2TW 1.2.

**Confederate Jeb** · July 06, 2008, 08:01 PM

If you have Kingdoms I would say Stainless Steel and the Retrofit mods. SS 6.1 is a beast and the retrofit is a nice addition.

**Wizzerdrix** · July 06, 2008, 08:10 PM

Thanks, appreciate it

Got Kingdoms alright

**Monsieur Alphonse** · July 07, 2008, 03:48 AM

Actually there is a Vanilla mod. It is a mod that improves Vanilla and get rid of some bugs. You can find it here: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=97522

II. What this modification does
This modification fixes numerous trait and ancillary bugs that were left unfixed in Medieval II: Total War in addition to
rebalancing all unit stats to make for more enjoyable battle experiences where cavalry is still powerful but not overpowering.
It also improves strategy map and battlefield map AI behavior to some extent in that the AI will field larger armies, more varied forces,
and higher quality soldiers and less artillery, although you will come across some rare siege trains at times. As if this was not enough,
the way missions work has been improved, tooltips enhanced, the guild system has been revisited, victory conditions for each faction individualized, and several
game mechanics such as birth and marriage rates have been improved.
To provide you with further enhanced gameplay, the AI will receive a number of florins a turn for each settlement they own up to a certain cap, so it stays
challenging but not overpowering.
Lastly, the frequency at which rebels spawn has been reduced but concurrently, rebels will be a lot more active in building and recruitment and troops have a higher chance to go rebel.

**NobleNick** · July 07, 2008, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Monsieur Alphonse

Actually there is a Vanilla mod. It is a mod that improves Vanilla and get rid of some bugs. You can find it here: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=97522

Oh, good grief! If we had called the original unmodded game "The original unmodded game." Someone would have come up with a mod called "The original unmodded game" mod.

@ Wizzerdrix --> "Vanilla" means the unmodded game (99.9% of the time).

@ Monsieur Alphonse --> I do honestly appreciate and thank you for enlightening us; however this does complicate life. Ah, well, I shall go back to feigning the obliviousness with which I was honestly blessed before I read your post. +rep for you, if the system will allow me (I think I +repped you not too long ago....)

EDIT: Eh, I was right: system allows no rep to you today....

**Monsieur Alphonse** · July 07, 2008, 08:58 PM

Don't blame me that some oen* had the nerve to call his mod vanilla

. It would have been nice to play the "The original unmodded game mod"

* This is a deliberate misspelling of someone. Only people with the knowledge of the dutch language will understand why

**The Noble Lord** · July 08, 2008, 02:53 AM

Any mods you can recommend then?

Sure, there are plenty of mods out there but I'll tell u my favorite ones.
Here they are:
1. SS 6.1
2. Broken Crescent
3. Lands to Conquer
4. Tsardoms: TW (still in the making, its gonna be released soon)

Thats for M2TW vanilla.

CHEERS

**Thompson45cal.** · July 13, 2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by NobleNick

Oh, good grief! If we had called the original unmodded game "The original unmodded game." Someone would have come up with a mod called "The original unmodded game" mod.

@ Wizzerdrix --> "Vanilla" means the unmodded game (99.9% of the time).

@ Monsieur Alphonse --> I do honestly appreciate and thank you for enlightening us; however this does complicate life. Ah, well, I shall go back to feigning the obliviousness with which I was honestly blessed before I read your post. +rep for you, if the system will allow me (I think I +repped you not too long ago....)

EDIT: Eh, I was right: system allows no rep to you today....

I'm rolling on the floor....... who'd have thunk it

I'll rep ya both cause I'm easy.
Thompson45cal. A.K.A. Easy

**Wizzerdrix** · July 13, 2008, 12:40 PM

Thanks all. I'm trying Stainless Steel but I have a problem. I've played as Ireland and Denmark and both times I have hardly been able to recruit any units at all. It says "no more units of this type available", even on the units that I haven't rectruited a single one of yet. Like I only had towns, then I took a castle and the recruit icons were grey already. What's up with that? Is this mod just designed to allow very few units for each region and to make castle units uber uber rare?

**Musthavename** · July 13, 2008, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Wizzerdrix

Thanks all. I'm trying Stainless Steel but I have a problem. I've played as Ireland and Denmark and both times I have hardly been able to recruit any units at all. It says "no more units of this type available", even on the units that I haven't rectruited a single one of yet. Like I only had towns, then I took a castle and the recruit icons were grey already. What's up with that? Is this mod just designed to allow very few units for each region and to make castle units uber uber rare?

Thats probably becasue you've got Bygs III on, which suffers from a glitch and requires a patch to fix (its in the sub-mods forum under SS). SS 6.0 comes with BYG II, and the 6.1 patch gives you the option of added RR / BYG III / removing BYG II. Personally, I would reccommend reinstalling Stainless Steel with RR / BYG removed just to start off with, and add them later on when you feel comfortable with the mod if you want the added challenge.

**Wizzerdrix** · July 13, 2008, 03:06 PM

Cheers, I'll try that out tomorrow

**Surgeon** · July 13, 2008, 03:12 PM

You can also try the Kingdoms Grand Campaign mod. It doesn't do anything quite as drastic as SS but adds a ton of Kingdoms content onto the M2TW campaign map.

**The Noble Lord** · July 14, 2008, 01:54 AM

reinstalling Stainless Steel with RR / BYG removed just to start off with, and add them later on

Thats right, that should solve the problem. Any other issues, just ask because I think that pretty much all of the problems with the mod have been dealt with in the past.

CHEERS

**Musthavename** · July 14, 2008, 05:37 AM

Oh, one other thing to mention if since i'm assuming this is your first M2TW mod. SS and other mods will randomly "quit" the game while selecting a faction. This is perfectly normal and is a problem caused by CA for custom campaigns. The campaign however should run perfectly fine, just decide your faction before you pick it.

**Wizzerdrix** · July 14, 2008, 12:13 PM

Yeah I've read that about the SS mod in some patch notes but thanks anyway. Works like a charm now that I've gotten rid of the BYG thing and started over.