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    Default Creation and Miracles

    watch this video that
    • disproves Evolution
    • gives evidence of a worldwide flood
    • gives evidence of Biblical and modern day miracles
    • shows incorrupt bodies of saints
    • shows pictures of Eucharistic miracles
    • discusses the miraculous details of the Shroud of Turin, the burial cloth of Jesus Christ
    part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tZMbXDopB8
    part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbpyQJq5AH8&feature=user
    part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_gI...eature=related
    part 4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y60_nFnzGGA&feature=user
    part 5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mKp...eature=related
    part 6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImlj...eature=related

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    Oh great, another one of these. I think the idea is to get you to smash your brain out because of the endless length of these things so that you will then agree with everything on account of being too exhausted to argue.

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    Ugghh, Can't these people come up with something new ??
    Why do they keep bring up things that have been debunked many times ??

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    How about we get your take on this in your own words rather than some 6 part video that I will never watch because I would rather shoot myself...

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    Wow, so many miracles and yet you haven't heard of a single one of them.
    He keeps going on and on about how they are observed and confirmed by scientists and yet we have never heard a single one of them.
    Weird isn't it.
    Right now he is up to the issues of Stigmata.
    Naturally he doesn't explain why people that got these wounds, why they are in the wrong place.

    Edit: Oh look, he is taking a swing at the protestants.
    This video is hilarious.
    Naturally I wanna smash my head into a wall at the same time but I'm laughing more.
    Last edited by God-Emperor of Mankind; July 04, 2008 at 05:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB666 View Post
    Wow, so many miracles and yet you haven't heard of a single one of them.
    He keeps going on and on about how they are observed and confirmed by scientists and yet we have never heard a single one of them.
    Weird isn't it.
    Right now he is up to the issues of Stigmata.
    Naturally he doesn't explain why people that got these wounds, why they are in the wrong place.

    Edit: Oh look, he is taking a swing at the protestants.
    This video is hilarious.
    Naturally I wanna smash my head into a wall at the same time but I'm laughing more.
    Who informs you of miracles?
    the vatican invites scientis,skeptics,atheist and so on before declaring anyone a saint.
    Well please inform me on the stigmata and why are they in the wrong place actually?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justus View Post
    Who informs you of miracles?
    Well I thought he would but he never did.
    He keep going on and on thousands of miracles taking place and never bothers to prove them.
    But then he goes on about how they are confirmed by scientists and athiests.
    Why we haven't heard anything from these people ??
    Quote Originally Posted by Justus View Post
    Well please inform me on the stigmata and why are they in the wrong place actually?
    Well people who had it always got it in the hands.
    This is a popular image among christians.
    Just look at crucifixes and paintings in your local church and you see Jesus with nails through his hands.
    Problem is, people that got crucified didn't get a nail through the hands, they got it through the wrist.
    This is supported by remains of crucified victims among other things.
    I have seen revised crucifixes where they have corrected the nails.
    But as I said, people that get stigmatas get it on the hands.
    So if the stigmatas are a sign from Jesus or what not, then he had no idea how he actually got crucified or they are simply fakes done by people with a mental disorder.
    I'm going for the last option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB666 View Post
    Well I thought he would but he never did.
    He keep going on and on thousands of miracles taking place and never bothers to prove them.
    But then he goes on about how they are confirmed by scientists and athiests.
    Why we haven't heard anything from these people ??

    Well people who had it always got it in the hands.
    This is a popular image among christians.
    Just look at crucifixes and paintings in your local church and you see Jesus with nails through his hands.
    Problem is, people that got crucified didn't get a nail through the hands, they got it through the wrist.
    This is supported by remains of crucified victims among other things.
    I have seen revised crucifixes where they have corrected the nails.
    But as I said, people that get stigmatas get it on the hands.
    So if the stigmatas are a sign from Jesus or what not, then he had no idea how he actually got crucified or they are simply fakes done by people with a mental disorder.
    I'm going for the last option.
    And why did people get nails though the wrists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justus View Post
    And why did people get nails though the wrists?
    It you crucify someone through their hands it can't hold the weight of the body.

    Also:Answer this, why has a cross never been discovered before 0 AD? The only one's for crucifying with wood that that predate's Christianity are T shaped. Jesus was probably curcified on a T, because the romans didn't have a head piece on it. What's the point? To rest the "wrong-doers" head?
    It's cos the cross was popular before Christian times, and using it helped blend Roman Tradition into the Religon, just like many of the miracles were previous Egyptian/Greek Legends, such as the son born of a virgin, e.t.c.
    Last edited by Desperado †; July 04, 2008 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justus View Post
    And why did people get nails though the wrists?
    Because the hands can't support the weight of the body.
    The hands would get torn apart.
    If you nailed them in the wrist, between the bones if I recall then the body would stay up and the victim would no doubt suffer more because of asphyxiation.

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    Yes, I think if the miracles had been scientifically proved and evoloution disproved we'd probably of heard about if before seeing these badly made bible bashing you-tube vids.

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    Who would inform you actually?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justus View Post
    Who would inform you actually?
    Umm...the news?
    Why would people be trying to make a compromise of Religon if they've probably done enough research to accept certain things already even after seeing vids like this?

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    I cannot count the number of times when threads like this appeared here. Just another in the "Flood", that is, the flood of repeated and discredited claims and pseudo-evidence.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    I think its pretty much hilarious you think these videos disprove anything--- and Im not even going to watch them.

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    I putted up this video so it would be debated but as far as I see is guys saying:0h l0lz *bashes head to the wall*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justus View Post
    watch this video that
    disproves Evolution

    gives evidence of a worldwide flood
    Yeah, it's called the primordial sea, it was home to many early bacteria that became what we are today.

    shows incorrupt bodies of saints
    I bet my body will go uncorrupted too when they pour preservatives into my veins.
    discusses the miraculous details of the Shroud of Turin, the burial cloth of
    Not even Catholics believe that bolagna.

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    Ok no wonder Justus is an interesting guy. At first I thought he was an ignorant Catholic but he's actually an evangelist. Go figure.

    Or for a better interpretation: a Christian version of Mansa Musa.

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    Justus, if you want to avoid a serious intellectual beatdown I suggest you withdraw your claims. Just trying to help you.

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    Heh,where's the delete button?

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