12 turns per year with proper aging

[Gigantus]

One turn per year is a bummer: characters only age at the end of the winter turn.

[Icedie El Guaraní]

One turn per year is a bummer: characters only age at the end of the winter turn.

Seriously? my mod is going to suffer from this, i have to do some major changes if that is the case, aging it has become a very important aspect of VLL, i will reconsider 620ad 2 turns per year, but if the mod will end at 1050, than that is about 800 turns, no one will play it.

@GED
any solution to my problem?

[Gigantus]

People will play a game until it attracts them. If you own half the world in 100 turns nobody will play much further.
It is not the scripted length as in the top of the descr_strat, it is the general playability that keeps people hooked.

You have 430 turns already. That is pretty long to play, even on hard\hard. But then that should be immaterial. You could have 400 turns in 33 years if you want and still have all the fun.

[peanut8]

I was wondering, would it be possible to make one turn be one week? Then one month would take four turns and one year would take 48 turns.

Could this be done? If so, how?

EDIT: I don't want to change the seasons. I just want the characters to age accordingly with the one week per turn timescale.

[Gigantus]

Same principle, just a lot of text\coding. you can have one DAY per turn if you choose (and are mad enough to want to create the code).

[peanut8]

Alright, so from what i figure, you have to divide 1 by the number of turns that you want in a year. So for 48 turns per year i get 208.3, more or less.
I suppose it would be too easy if all i had to do was paste 208.3 into timescale, huh?

I guess the insanely complicated thing would be that i had to assign every single week to a season, but i don't want to change the seasons.

The only reason i want this change is for the Westeros Total War mod, and in Westeros the seasons are identical for years. So, not caring about the changing seasons at all, could i just modify it so that the characters age along with the one week per turn change?

[dcpuser]

Hi all,

I'm running into an issue with this and SS6.2. The year increments correctly (from the looks of it) but I just noticed my general's are aging much faster. For example in this campaign the start year is 1220 and at turn 80 is now 1227. However in those 7 years my generals have all aged by 10 years. Anyone seen this issue before where the generals are aging faster? Attached is a copy of my campaign txt file and this is what i have in my descr_strat

start_date 1220 winter
end_date 1560 winter
timescale 0.0835

[an_do_89]

Just a bad question :

Could the game be changed from TBS to RTS ?
I'm refering at playing it continuously , without turns . To change everything in seconds and minutes . Like the time in Mount and Blade or Knights of Honor ?

Does the core of the game give acces in this way ?

[Gigantus]

You missed the year when they learned dividing, right?

1 divided by 48 = 0.02083

But then, what are a few zeros and decimals between friends. (Your figure would have been 208.3 years per round)

[ronnie76]

First off thank you so much for coming up with this great script and helping everyone implement it.

Keraaappp!! I need help.
I am using SS 6.1 mod. I have not made any changes to the campaign_script. I have changed the descr_strat quite a bit though.

I changed my descr_strat file to have the following code

start_date 1080 winter
end_date 1760 winter
timescale 0.25

When I put GrnEyedDvl's 4 turns campaign_script file into my \imperial_campaign folder replacing SS's campaign_script the seasons and aging work perfectly, but when I copy and paste the code into SS's campaign_script at the end but before the wait_monitors line it doesn't work. I fixed the line

set_event_counter NewCapital 0
monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
 set_event_counter NewCapital 0
end_monitor

but still no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Ronnie

The end of my campaign_script looks like this

;------------------------- NEW CAPITAL COSTS ------------------------
set_event_counter NewCapital 0
monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
 set_event_counter NewCapital 0
end_monitor
monitor_event FactionNewCapital FactionIsLocal
 and CampaignDifficulty >= hard
 console_command add_money -5000
 set_event_counter NewCapital 1
end_monitor
monitor_event FactionNewCapital FactionIsLocal
 and CampaignDifficulty = medium
 console_command add_money -2000
 set_event_counter NewCapital 1
end_monitor
 
;----------------------------------------------------
 ;show the whole map
 restrict_strat_radar false
; 1. 12 Turns per year.
declare_counter quarter
set_counter quarter 1 ;set to January
monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal ; set the season for each quarter
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 1 ;Jan, Feb, March
  console_command season winter
 end_if
 
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 2 ;April, May, June
  console_command season summer
 end_if
 
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 3 ;July, Aug, Sept
  console_command season summer
 end_if
 
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 4 ;Oct, Nov, Dec
  console_command season winter
 end_if
 
 inc_counter quarter 1 ;advance the quarter
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 5 ;start a new year
  set_counter quarter 1
 end_if
end_monitor
monitor_event FactionTurnEnd FactionType slave
 and I_CompareCounter quarter > 1
 console_command season summer
end_monitor
 wait_monitors
end_script

[ronnie76]

Ok so I found where the problem is, but I don't know how to fix it.

When I add the following line to the code just before the last end_monitor line below it stops working.

    if I_CompareCounter nowc >= 1

This script works fine

;
; Campaign script
; Written by GrnEyedDvl
;
; Table of Contents
; 1. 4 turns per year, characters age in 1st Quarter
;
;
;
;
;
;
;
script
 ;show the whole map
 restrict_strat_radar false
; 1. 12 Turns per year.
declare_counter quarter
set_counter quarter 1 ;set to January
monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal ; set the season for each quarter
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 1 ;Jan, Feb, March
  console_command season winter
 end_if
 
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 2 ;April, May, June
  console_command season summer
 end_if
 
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 3 ;July, Aug, Sept
  console_command season summer
 end_if
 
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 4 ;Oct, Nov, Dec
  console_command season winter
 end_if
 
 inc_counter quarter 1 ;advance the quarter
 if I_CompareCounter quarter == 5 ;start a new year
  set_counter quarter 1
 end_if
end_monitor
monitor_event FactionTurnEnd FactionType slave
 and I_CompareCounter quarter > 1
 console_command season summer
end_monitor
;BEGIN:------------------- Byg's Grim Reality Recruitment-------------------;
        declare_counter nowc 0
;while SettlementTurnEnd and SettlementIsLocal
monitor_event SettlementTurnEnd SettlementIsLocal
        and SettlementName Inverness
        and GovernorInResidence
        and GovernorAttribute Charm <= 9
        set_counter nowc 1
end_monitor
monitor_event SettlementTurnEnd SettlementIsLocal
        and SettlementName Inverness
        and GovernorInResidence
        and GovernorAttribute Charm <= 4
        set_counter nowc 2
end_monitor
monitor_event SettlementTurnEnd SettlementIsLocal
        and SettlementName Inverness
        and not GovernorInResidence
        set_counter nowc 2
end_monitor
monitor_event SettlementTurnEnd SettlementIsLocal
        and SettlementName Inverness
end_monitor
 wait_monitors
end_script

[ronnie76]

I think the problem may be in Byg's Grim Reality Recruitment in that I replaced some units in the export_descr_unit.txt and didn't delete them from the campaign_script.

Does this sound likely?

[GrnEyedDvl]

I think the problem may be in Byg's Grim Reality Recruitment in that I replaced some units in the export_descr_unit.txt and didn't delete them from the campaign_script.

Does this sound likely?

Yeah thats probably the issue.

[peanut8]

Show-off FAIL on my part.

God knows why i multiplied by 10,000.

So, all i would have to do is input 0.02083 into timescale?

[Gigantus]

That would be a start. And then comes the stuff about building times and recruitment times. And then the stuff about aging. And then the stuff about seasons (because winter is when your characters age)(and because by default every second turn is winter).

Sure you want to do this?

PS forgot the stuff about events - in descr_events they work only at the start of the year. You would have to script events on a turn basis.

[peanut8]

Sounds awfully painful. But hey, can't give up without trying.

Could i get a hint of where to find the first few files? I'll start with aging.

[Gigantus]

I would suggest you download this mod here and start from there. Check what files are used, check how the netries are formulated.
And then rep the author.

[Gigantus]

Not possible.

[chatumao]

Hello there! Anyone, one question :
Dividing 1 through 12 would give 0,8(period_3).
Now the Timescale for this mod is set to 0,835 - Does the game start counting from 0 after a year is finished?
For instance, creating a mod for weeks (52 they are i guess) would mean that one week were
0.019(period_230769). So you simply had to round this figure up and it would work?

Regards

[Gigantus]

According to GED (who wrote a script for that) the entry is 0.0834, so I guess ist is rounding up to the fourth decimal.