why are dismounted chivalric knights inferior to feudal knights?

[Exarch]

look at the stats
the defence for the chivalric kngihts is a pitiful 18-19 yet, the feudal knight has 21 as its defense.
i dont get it
if the chivalric knights came later and hence more advanced, shouldnt their armour be better?

[Monsieur Alphonse]

You are probably talking about eastern dismounted chivalric knights. They have a defense of 19. Normal dismounted chivalric knights have a defense of 22. Why Hungarian chivlrics have a lower defense value beats me. They have 1 extra armor but a smaller shield. And they have the same morale and upkeep. Only their training costs are a mere 80 florins higher. So why should someone use easterns?

[Exarch]

same with imperial knights in the HRE
why is this?
why the shield not so good?

[Xamt]

the dismounted imperial knights in hre have a bonus against armor, so you might argue that they are sacrifising some defense for the ability to carry maces etc ...

[clandestino]

the dismounted imperial knights in hre have a bonus against armor,

I have tested dismounted imperials against DFK and they loose every single time, both in offense and defence, altough they have AP attack. I repeated the test for dozen of times and they always get decimated.

[Exarch]

so is it better to use zweihanders instead of imperial knights as your army's bread and butter?

[Lord Romanus III]

Yes, because the Imperial Knights are just about worthless in my opinion. As posted above, they lose every time and aren't worth their money.

[Xamt]

so is it better to use zweihanders instead of imperial knights as your army's bread and butter?

most definatelly yes, imprial knights kinda suck :s they have lower armor than dfk, but higher upkeep, and they do so much worse than zweihanders in offence

[Exarch]

mounted imperial knights are awesome tho
dismounted, they're crappy.

[clandestino]

The best is to use good old DFKs.

[Exarch]

DFKs just seem so....outdaTED in the late game when everyone has chivalric knihts.
it's like what's the motivation for using imperial or chivalric knights when feudal knights (or norman knights) are more powerful?

[clandestino]

Vanity...

[Exarch]

lol
u see it with norman sicily as well.
chivalric knights are pitiful against norman knights who i suppose were historically tougher

[Jackster]

Armoured Swordsmen wipe the floor with them big time!