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    Default Do cold wars still exist today?

    personally, i think not, yet u still hear a fair bit about 'the cold war between USA and EU' and/or 'the cold war between china and the USA' and/or the cold war between 'china and taiwan' and/or 'the cold war between mushroom kingdom and warioland' and the balkans etc etc etc.

    if so, pls state where a cold war exists, between which countries and how things are going.

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    Israel and Iran are in a sort of pseudo-cold war
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    Greece-Turkey's unofficial (cold)war1979-Today!!!
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    There never was a Cold War to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizigothe View Post
    There never was a Cold War to begin with.
    of course there was a cold war, did the US and russia ever fight face to face? Thats what i thought, Yes there were puppet nations fighting eachother, but that still doesn't discount he fact that there was a massive war of economic, social and political ideology between east and west.

    saying that there was no cold war is almost like saying the holocaust never happened..sort of




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    Quote Originally Posted by Otsman View Post
    of course there was a cold war, did the US and russia ever fight face to face?
    Yes in a very small scale though. In the Korean War Russian pilots fought under Chinese flag flying the Mig 15 that made up Mig Alley.
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    Greek/Turkish cold war continues...
    A month ago a turkish officer was captured in a greek island with his millitary ID on him when he was trying to pass ilegal immigrants and through them to investigate millitary facillities...
    It was the 2nd time that the same officer was captured...
    He is in the Korydallos prisson and waiting his trial....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII View Post
    Greek/Turkish cold war continues...
    A month ago a turkish officer was captured in a greek island with his millitary ID on him when he was trying to pass ilegal immigrants and through them to investigate millitary facillities...
    It was the 2nd time that the same officer was captured...
    He is in the Korydallos prisson and waiting his trial....
    wow
    that's some heavy .
    i cant see turkey trying to invade greece tho..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizigothe View Post
    There never was a Cold War to begin with.
    oh, so the oh so many years w/ the 2 greatest superpowers in a standoff w/ nuclear projectiles aimed at eachother doesnt count as a cold war???

    p.s. note sarcasm on the oh so many yrs part
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    Quote Originally Posted by vizigothe View Post
    There never was a Cold War to begin with.

    I have to agree with vizigothe, there never was a cold war, there was a lot of little (small) hot wars during the time of said cold war era.

    So I think we should call it a luke warm war.

    As far as today, political rhetoric has a tenedency to create a cold war feeling in a lot of people... US vs Iran, US vs China, US vs North Korea........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sushiman View Post
    REVISIONNIST !!!!!!!!!
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    Are you talking to me?

    What do you call Panama, Guatemala, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, etc....etc....etc....etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizigothe View Post
    Are you talking to me?

    What do you call Panama, Guatemala, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, etc....etc....etc....etc....
    Definitely hot wars, but these are proxies to keep the principals of the cold war (USSR and USA) from contesting directly against each other. They never had a hot conflict, but thru proxies ... Also, the large military alliance blocks (NATO and Warsaw) contributed to the cold war status and perehaps should be considered a requirement.

    Nothing rises to the level of this today. Observations of conflicts simmering below the surface do not count. The Iran/Isreali tension is close. I do not know what it takes to get to cold war status Perhaps it is just a question of scale and risk. Or perhaps if Iran becomes a nuclear weapons power. Or each as part of a larger military alliance. Can the US be considered an ally for this purpose? Probably not. An actual attack on Israel will not be considered the same as an attack on the US.

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    Cold war between big economies (USA, EU, China, India, Russia...) is practically impossible today. Cold war would mean cooling not just political relations, but ending trade relations or at least very much limiting them. Big states are to dependent to each other today to risk loosing so much trade. Only way would be isolation of one state by others, the total embargo, which would lead to open war.
    However arms race is possible.
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    You could argue that there was never a Cold War, the goalposts just moved and the 2nd World War continued.

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    US and China....

    two nations that hopefully will never go into a "hot war" but we are in a cold war of sorts...an economic cold war.

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    an economic cold war despite free trade exisitng more or less between the 2 superpowers

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    Exarch,

    You miss my point. I am not implying that there isn't trade between the two nations. What I mean is that China and the United States are in a sort of economic war...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oglethorpe1983 View Post
    Exarch,

    You miss my point. I am not implying that there isn't trade between the two nations. What I mean is that China and the United States are in a sort of economic war...
    No. There are companies competing for consumers and company/government contracts. Where is the "economic cold war" and how would you define such?

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    What about the Korea's? I thought they were in a state of war technically, just not actually fighting? -Leon

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