noddegamra

[Amorphos]

noddegamra

i been wondering about the notion of Armageddon in a wider context, many of us have some notion of dramatic change and some that it would be sudden and with a specific result, namely that evil will be overcome. i cannot see any truth in a war between the goodies and baddies, as when we break it down we don’t ever get anyone who is 100% one or the other. in all cases environmental aspects are in play making it impossible to put all the blame on an individual even if evil.

what i want to present to you is the idea that in fact rather than everything building up to a climactic battle between good and evil, the opposite is actually what is occurring in the world!
what we actually see is an interchange in religious ideas and a general melting away of boundaries, people are finding similarities more than differences.

over time we have also seen a kind of powerplay where one religion or idea has superseded another in both the east and west. eventually though if current trends continue there will be no all powerful religions ~ if any at all, these will be replaced by sets of philosophical ideas and contrasts with which an individual may build their own interpretation of things.

so do you think an inverted Armageddon is occurring? [where armageddon is simply an expression of general trends].

will peace be found through 1) union or 2) conflict [the answer seams rather obvious to me] ~ by one religion winning through against and above all others. note that here ‘conflict’ doesn’t necessarily mean war and aggression. it may mean that a given set of truths can defeat all others that contradict them.

in all honesty, do you think your religion is that very religion which will eventually win!?

if so are you prepared to let go of this belief? are you even looking to do so, or are you just trying to find ways to supplement what you already believe in.

thanks

quetz

[Chaigidel]

I dont know if one belief will win out in time to save humanity, but in my eyes it will likely be Islam; just due to the tenacity of the muslims.

or over time the religion will become a blend of all ideas forged through the mass communicator of the internet-- a mix of ancestor worship ,and buddhism with dabblings of messianic and apocalyptic cults which venerate certain ancestors ( or ancestor myths)

[Kiljaden]

I speculate that eventually religion will be sterilized to the point where the majority of people are either atheists, pantheists, or deists; very few people will believe in an effectual, meaningful God anymore - and life on Earth with be best without it.

Armageddon? Fear tactic. Same as hell. You don't know when Armageddon is, or when you'll die, so you BETTER CONVERT NOW OR ELSE!

[The Big Red 1]

I speculate that eventually religion will be sterilized to the point where the majority of people are either atheists, pantheists, or deists; very few people will believe in an effectual, meaningful God anymore - and life on Earth with be best without it.

Armageddon? Fear tactic. Same as hell. You don't know when Armageddon is, or when you'll die, so you BETTER CONVERT NOW OR ELSE!

You've seen way too many baptists!

[Kiljaden]

lol probably true

And I agree with Chaig, if there is an "End", it will be self-inflicted by the humans.

[Amorphos]

chai

in my eyes it will likely be Islam; just due to the tenacity of the muslims.

perhaps yes, although that may also be their downfall [here's hoping]. i expect that as ideas mix up more in islamic nations then change will happen from within ~ no signs of it yet though.

kiljaden

somehow they will all go through the blender from which nothing comes out whole.

lets hope they don’t find proof of god nor any more fanciful scientific notions. i think spirituality would be better off without religion.

agree it is a fear tactic on the negative side, and hope on the positive.

chief, hi

humans have always speculated about the end of all things

isn’t that of abrahamic religions, mainly due to the imminent destruction at the hands of the romans.

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i don’t see an end of humanity, perhaps a growing into something new, little else in evolution remains the same [bar alligators and germs perhaps] and humans are changing more than anything else in evolutionary history.

[Chaigidel]

It comes more from a need for justice than a fear of damnation; armageddon is a hope that all crimes will be answered for and all proper justice done to all participants.

[Chief Astook]

humans have always speculated about the end of all things, my guess is if the end does come it wont be laced with any spiritual signifigance, only mindless destruction. (probably self inflicted by humanity itself)