War Between Israel and Iran In the Future?

[confidential0216]

I'm sure a lot of you have heard on the news about pressure being placed on Iran by the West, their continued defiance and Israel preparing to strike if necessary. I personally believe that conflict will come, and soon, between Israel and Iran. I also believe the US will either have a minor role or will be a key player in the conflict, perhaps even some various Western countries who feel Iran could threaten the globe.

What is your opinion on this? Feel free to share. Also, remember to argue your point of view in a respectful, non-insulting way. Thank you.

[Exarch]

war would be nice
i feel like a good old nationalistic drumbeat for war

[Gauvin]

Israel has presently more to lose than any other nation in the world. Armies have attempted, or planned to invade Israel for the sole purpose of conquering it and dismantling it completely. Israel has been in a fight for its existance, and still is. When Arab armies invaded they took heavy military losses, but they were able to rebuild their armies and move on. The stakes are much higher for Israel. They won't mess around when their security is at stake. Most people might accuse them of being overtly aggressive, but what country stands to lose as much as Israel if it were attacked?

Israel will probably strike Iran's uranium enrichment facilities and that's it. The problem is, Iran will take a major hissy fit and probably attack ships in the Persian Gulf at the Straight of Hormuz thereby drawing tons of countries into the conflict including the U.S.

[confidential0216]

Israel has presently more to lose than any other nation in the world. Armies have attempted, or planned to invade Israel for the sole purpose of conquering it and dismantling it completely. Israel has been in a fight for its existance, and still is. When Arab armies invaded they took heavy military losses, but they were able to rebuild their armies and move on. The stakes are much higher for Israel. They won't mess around when their security is at stake. Most people might accuse them of being overtly aggressive, but what country stands to lose as much as Israel if it were attacked?

Israel will probably strike Iran's uranium enrichment facilities and that's it. The problem is, Iran will take a major hissy fit and probably attack ships in the Persian Gulf at the Straight of Hormuz thereby drawing tons of countries into the conflict including the U.S.

Exactly my point of view. Israel has always had conflict brought to it's borders and they have defended themselves. In every war between Israel and an Arab nation, Israel won, usually in stunning victories. For example, the 1967 Six-Day War. Yes, Israel's plan would most definitely include striking Iran's enrichment facilities, but, as you said, Iran would be furious. After all that is an attack against Iran. I think their reaction would be a little more severe than attacking ships in the Gulf and they would probably receive support from their surrounding nations, just as the Arabs did in the Six-Day War.

[The Big Red 1]

Iran I feel won't take over Israel til it take over Iraq when the U.S. leaves.

I feel the U.S. will heavily back Israel like it always has and we will be in another Middle-Eastern conflict that has no point

[Mythos]

and they would probably receive support from their surrounding nations, just as the Arabs did in the Six-Day War.

I highly doubt it. Saudi Arabia does not want a nuclear Iran, Turkey does not want a nuclear Iran, Jordan is not going to turn around after all this effort to westernise. Syria will not dare to attack Israel when it holds the Golan and certainly when it knows that the IAF will pulverise it if it tries anything. Hezbollah and Hamas will be the agents of Iran's retribution (and a lot of ballistic missiles, which will be destroyed by the US and Israeli Patriot batteries) but that is nothing that the Isrealis can't deal with.

The problem is how to conduct the operation but I am certain that the Israelis won't dissappoint. When they do it, it will be an airforce operation that people will talk about for many decades.

also there is only 5 million jews in isreal, not a lot of manpower to draw from (that will actually fight and die for isreal)

Do you know that all Israelis are trained soldiers? Women too. Men serve for 3 years and women for 2. And we are not talking about crappy training here. They are trained soldiers. How does 3 million soldiers sound for reserves?

[roy34543]

Airstrikes at most honestly. i doubt any other country except the US would do anything though (I mean apart from UN condemnations which dont really do anything) And mobilizing forces through hundreds of miles of another country is unappealing for any army, And in both of these cases logistics will make it worse considering Iraq is hardly in a position to feed either side.

[saglam2000]

uhh you forget that if isreal attacks iran, every single arab nation (and terrorist group) is going to attack isreal because this time they cant win. also there is only 5 million jews in isreal, not a lot of manpower to draw from (that will actually fight and die for isreal)

[The Big Red 1]

uhh you forget that if isreal attacks iran, every single arab nation (and terrorist group) is going to attack isreal because this time they cant win. also there is only 5 million jews in isreal, not a lot of manpower to draw from (that will actually fight and die for isreal)

I can see it now the modern Crusade. I would love it if the Pope called a Crusade against Iran. Then Americans will actually have a use for their guns.

[Oldgamer]

uhh you forget that if isreal attacks iran, every single arab nation (and terrorist group) is going to attack isreal because this time they cant win. also there is only 5 million jews in isreal, not a lot of manpower to draw from (that will actually fight and die for isreal)

The reason your scenario has never occurred since the end of the last war is simple. Israeli nukes ... around 200 of them. No country within striking distance of Israel would survive a successful attack on the Jewish state.

Never again. Have you ever heard of that national motto?

On the topic of this thread, I'm sure that the Israelis will strike multiple Iranian nuclear sites, to include the hardened underground sites. This was why they bought a number of bunker-busters, in the last several months.

If Iran wishes to respond by attacking shipping in the Persian Gulf, they do so at their own peril. It is the stated policy of the United States to ensure freedom of the seas. Iran could not hope to escape a retaliatory strike against them, if they did this.

Personally, I'm for the destruction of Kharg Island, where 80% of Iran's oil exports are shipped from. Since much of these exports go to China, I'm sure that China could be pressured to "convince" the Iranians that attacking Persian Gulf shipping wouldn't be a wise thing to do.

[Heinz Guderian]

Personally, I'm for the destruction of Kharg Island, where 80% of Iran's oil exports are shipped from. Since much of these exports go to China, I'm sure that China could be pressured to "convince" the Iranians that attacking Persian Gulf shipping wouldn't be a wise thing to do.

Aside from the thousands of people that would die (nvm), what do you think that would do to the price of oil? Forget the EU or US, developing nations would be crippled.

[Miraj]

Aside from the thousands of people that would die ..

Itz w@r d00d, stuff h@pp3nz. S0 wut.

[Heinz Guderian]

Itz w@r d00d, stuff h@pp3nz. S0 wut.

I am such a liberal "what would jesus do" kinda guy.

Wish Jesus was here. Peace would reign.

[Oldgamer]

Aside from the thousands of people that would die (nvm), what do you think that would do to the price of oil? Forget the EU or US, developing nations would be crippled.

Kharg Island is the greatest guarantee that the Iranians will not, in fact, attack shipping in the Gulf. It's destruction would completely cripple the Iranian economy, and likely result in revolution.

Perhaps Mr. Ahmadinejad should consider the lives of his people, before he threatens to wipe Israel ... a nuclear-armed country ... off the face of the earth.

As for oil prices, they will be driven by political and military events, for the near future.

[Heinz Guderian]

Kharg Island is the greatest guarantee that the Iranians will not, in fact, attack shipping in the Gulf. It's destruction would completely cripple the Iranian economy, and likely result in revolution.

thats not going to happen

Perhaps Mr. Ahmadinejad should consider the lives of his people, before he threatens to wipe Israel ... a nuclear-armed country ... off the face of the earth.

he said "disappear from the pages of time" and he was talking about the "zionist entity". But he hasnt actually attacked Israel has he?

As for oil prices, they will be driven by political and military events, for the near future.

$400 a barrell? Have you got a bicycicle handy?

[boofhead]

It probably will eventually lead to war. What other country in the world has to put up with the President of another country constantly stating 'we will wipe you off the map!". Or having thousands of rockets fired by it's lackeys into its own land? I mean, seriously. Iran already deserves a military bloody nose from both Israel and the US.

[The Big Red 1]

It probably will eventually lead to war. What other country in the world has to put up with the President of another country constantly stating 'we will wipe you off the map!". Or having thousands of rockets fired by it's lackeys into its own land? I mean, seriously. Iran already deserves a military bloody nose from both Israel and the US.

And the U.S. deserves a bloody nose for ohhh sooo many things.

Oh and deal one out to Israel for the Gaza strip

[boofhead]

And the U.S. deserves a bloody nose for ohhh sooo many things.

Yeah, probably, and who is going to volunteer to do it? Osama did, and delivered a slight pin-prick, and unleashed a hellfire of destruction in response. Next pin-prick please.....

Oh and deal one out to Israel for the Gaza strip

Screw the Gaza strip It still exists, doesn't it? And yet Israel could take it all back in a few days at any time it desired.

[Astaroth]

The US has done more good things than bad things and is a democracy after all.

Same cannot be said about Iran

If Iran is to be involved in a war, I hope US and Israel air force will just completely wreck havoc to the whole country, destroying all the military industry etc, kicking it back into the stone age. Don't bother actually invading, would just lead to more guerilla pussy style warfare...

[The Big Red 1]

The US has done more good things than bad things and is a democracy after all.

Same cannot be said about Iran

If Iran is to be involved in a war, I hope US and Israel air force will just completely wreck havoc to the whole country, destroying all the military industry etc, kicking it back into the stone age. Don't bother actually invading, would just lead to more guerilla pussy style warfare...

I agree with u if Iran invades bomb the heck out of them but don't invade, and don't let Israel do the same thing.

If Israel attacks first. let them and leave them alone.(I doubt Israel will attack first.)