retinue and traits

[coggser]

i didnt see any links for this and i was wondering what is going to appen with these, will heros from lord of the rings be available as retine e.t.c. and boost the generals abilities and stuff, also wll items from lotr be included, such as mithril mail, light of galadriel, all the rings of ower e.t.c.

[Varjon]

There will be ancillaries and traits from LotR books and movies so far as I know

[The Big Red 1]

There will be ancillaries and traits from LotR books and movies so far as I know

ok

[The Count(er)]

yeah I can't imagine playing a LotR mod without a new set of traits and ancillaries to get

[Varjon]

Since this thread hasn't been closed I'll post here little list of mine from dev forums.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I noticed that in --Progress-- thread reads that 5-10% of traits and ancillaries have already been made. I'm not sure who is making them but I'll give here some of my own ideas.

First titles, that means ancillary or trait which you get to your general or family member if he stays couple turns in settlement. This can be get only if some other general or family member doesn't already have it.

Silvan Elves, High Elves and Dwarves

Lord of Mithlond
Lord of Rivendell
Lord of Lórien
Lord of Ered Ethring
Lord of Gundabad

And so on for every city and castle...

As an exception general or family member who stays couple turns in Erebor should have this title.

King of Erebor or King under the Mountain

Kingdom of Rohan, Kingdom of Dale and Eriador

Hmm, maybe Duke will do it...

Duke of Wold
Duke of Westfold
Duke of Breeland

And so on for every city and castle...

And there's exceptions.

Master of Lake-town
Lord of Dale
Lord of Edoras

Gondor

Title Lord of Minas Tirith should only be available for faction leader only

Lord of Emyn Arnen
Lord of Pelargir
Lord of Lossarnach
Lord of Dol Amroth

And so on for every city and castle...

Mordor, Isengard, Orcs of Misty Mountains, Rhûn and Harad

Chieftain of Nurn
Chieftain of Cirith Ungol
Cieftain of Carn Dûm

And so on for every city and castle...

And there's exceptions.

Lord of Barad-dûr
Lord of Minas Morgul
Lord of Dol Guldur
Lord of Umbar
Lord of Orthanc

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Then some traits for leaders of factions.

Gondor

Steward of Gondor

Kingdom of Rohan

King of the Mark (if we are accurate this title fits better than King of Rohan, because rohirrim called their land Mark, Rohan was name given by people of Gondor)

Kingdom of Dale

King of Dale

Eriador

Chieftain of the Dúnedain (this is difficult because Eriador actually wasn't faction and if I have to choose between Thain, Major of Michel Delving and Chieftain of the Dúnedain, I will choose Chieftain of the Dúnedain)

Dwarves

King of Durin's Folk

High Elves

High King of Noldor (that would sound epic, in theory Elrond was High King of Noldor even he didn't have that title or rulership of Lindon)

Silvan Elves

King of the Woodland Realm (my opinion is that Thranduil should be faction leader of Silvan Elves because he had heir and Celeborn didn't have, though Elladan, Elrohir and Arwen were his grand children)

Mordor

Dark Lord of Mordor

Isengard

Lord of Orthanc (sorry, couldn't make up anything better )

Orcs of Misty Mountains

Orc-chieftain of Gundabad (sorry, couldn't make up anything better )

Harad

Chieftain of Harad

Rhûn

Chieftain of Rhûn

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Then some race and misc. traits.

Gandalf the Grey, Radagast the Brown and Saruman the White

Istari
Maia

Dwarves

All dwarves of royal family and almost every general should have this trait.

Longbeard

Dwarves of Durin's Folk were called Longbeards.

Some few generals and adopted family members should have another of these traits.

Firebeard
Broadbeam

Dwarves of Ered Luin during First Age were called Firebeards and Broadbeams.

Royal house of stewards, royal house of Dol Amroth and chieftains of the Dúnedain

Dúnedain

This could also be given rarely to generals and adopted family members because there were only few pure dúnedain left in Gondor.

[Nikos]

Perhaps the leader of Harad could be called "The serpent Lord" in the ROTK book Theoden kills the Harad leader called "The black serpent"

[ccllnply]

The leader of Harad would be known as "Grand Serpant" (sorry, I'm a perfectionist ).

My list of thingys:

Anduil
Mithril Vest
That gem in the Hobbit
King Under the Mountain for Dwarven leader

[Varjon]

The leader of Harad would be known as "Grand Serpant" (sorry, I'm a perfectionist ).

My list of thingys:

Anduil
Mithril Vest
That gem in the Hobbit
King Under the Mountain for Dwarven leader

That last one doesn't fit because capital of dwarves can change, I believe that if dwarves would have returned to Khazad-dûm their king would lived there. Actually that happened during 4th Age when Durin VII was king.

[Kiljaden]

Whatever general possesses the One Ring must have 10 dread until it's given to another general (if only there was a way to decrease the chance of death post-65 with an ancilliary...)

Also, perhaps there's a 50% chance the game will crash when you attempt to switch the One Ring ancilliary to another general LOL

[Ishoss]

Prince of Dol Amroth perhaps? That's what he's called in the Norwegian book.

[Varjon]

That can be ancillary but not title because Lord of Dol Amroth was title of Prince of Dol Amroth.

[Fionn son of Cumhaill]

Em im not 100% certain where i read this but wasn't Theoden referred to as King of the "Ridder"-mark or something along that line....

[Varjon]

Em im not 100% certain where i read this but wasn't Theoden referred to as King of the "Ridder"-mark or something along that line....

Maybe... I watched "King of the Mark" from Tolkien Gateway and there was said that it was title of Rohan's king in Rohan.

[Eleril]

The King of the Mark is the King of Rohan.If you want some longer titles than it would be King of the Ridder-mark.The name the Eotheod gave to their new homeland of Calenardhon was Ridder-mark and thus their King was King of the Mark or the Ridder-mark.Rohan(d) was the name given to the country by the son of Cyrion(Steward of Gondor) and it originated from the Sindarin Rohhirim whis means Horselords and thus the name of the land - Rohan(d)-Land of the Horse(lords).

[Turtules]

Eleril has spoken.

[Varjon]

From Tolkien Gateway:

The King of the Mark was an equivalent title to 'King of Rohan', probably more commonly used in Rohan itself.

That's why I think that faction leader of Rohan should have that title.

[Varjon]

Here's a little trait update.

Enemy of Goblins: +1 Command when fighting against Orcs of Misty Mountains.
Enemy of Orcs: +1 Command when fighting against Mordor or Isengard.
Enemy of Easterlings: +1 Command when fighting against Rhûn.
Enemy of Haradrim: +1 Command when fighting against Harad.

Enemy of Elves: +1 Command when fighting against High Elves or Silvan Elves.
Enemy of Dwarves: +1 Command when fighting against Dwarves.
Enemy of Northmen: +1 Command when fighting against Dale, Rohan or Eriador.
Enemy of Dúnedain: +1 Command when fighting against Gondor.

[Varjon]

Misc. ancillaries and traits which appear only for single characters and their heirs.

Ring of Barahir: +3 Command, +3 Authority
Andúril: +4 Command, improves morale of units on battlefield
Sceptre of Annúminas: +3 Authority, +3 Management

Nenya: +2 Command, +4 Authority, +4 Management
Vilya: +3 Command, +4 Authority, +4 Management, improves public health
Narya: +4 Command, +3 Authority, +3 Management, improves morale of units on battlefield

Staff of Saruman: +2 Authority, +2 Management
Staff of Gandalf: +2 Authority, +2 Management

The One Ring: +4 Command, +4 Authority, +4 Dread

Gúthwinë: +2 Command
Herugrim: +3 Command

[Swagger]

this might be helpful in the future


specially your ideas, don't close this moderators

[Code_Knight]

i didnt see any links for this and i was wondering what is going to appen with these, will heros from lord of the rings be available as retine e.t.c. and boost the generals abilities and stuff, also wll items from lotr be included, such as mithril mail, light of galadriel, all the rings of ower e.t.c.

This mod is still in development (and hasn't been released), heroes might come in later releases, but not in the first.

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