How can I convince Christians??

[AqD]

After so many discussions, I wonder is there any possible thing - anything at all - that someone can use to convince Christians that their god doesn't exist? (not by the god saying "i'm no god" )

If there isn't any, their religion must be false and the believers are just crazy.... Agreed?

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EDIT:

THE THREAD IS NOT TO DISCUSS IF GOD EXISTS!!

I asked if there is any possible thing that can be used to prove "God doesn't exist" for the Christians. It's a hypothesis, since I don't have any solid evidence to prove god exists or not exists.

It's as simple as that:
1) I think my friend Bob lives well
2) But, if someone finds him sick on his bed, then my thought is wrong.

Or that:
1) I think god may not exist because I cannot feel him
2) If he shows up (visually or in an abstract sense), my thought must be wrong and I'd believe god is true.

Now, I just wonder if there is "point 2" for Christians' belief in god, to show he may not exist?


If there isn't, the religion must be wrong because you're believing in something that cannot be false under any conditions.
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[roy34543]

Look at it from their viewpoint and you realize why.
"after so many discussions, I wonder is there any possible thing - anything at all - that someone can use to convince atheists that god exists?(not by the god saying "im god")

If there is is one, Atheism must be false and non-believers are jsut crazy...Agreed?

No offense, but as long as its impossible to prove or disprove god, you stand at a impasse.

[AqD]

Look at it from their viewpoint and you realize why.
"after so many discussions, I wonder is there any possible thing - anything at all - that someone can use to convince atheists that god exists?(not by the god saying "im god")

If there is is one, Atheism must be false and non-believers are jsut crazy...Agreed?

No offense, but as long as its impossible to prove or disprove god, you stand at a impasse.

No, of course not. I and many other atheists can be convinced if god shows up here, and demostrates some magic and tells us that he truly loves us, and explains why crazy things like Crusades ever occured.

Because we're reasonable men and we're willing to accept anything for good reasons.
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[Clouse123456]

Somewhere in the bible did jesus say go around killing the non belivers hell IM christian thats news to me.Actually if there were perfect christians the crusades would have never have happened.The truth was that the crusades were about Religous Zelots wanting land in the middle east and for wealth all what jesus would not want.

[Miraj]

The truth was that the crusades were about Religous Zelots wanting land in the middle east and for wealth all what jesus would not want.

This has been proven wrong over and over again so many times I can't even count anymore. Modern scholarship of the Crusades reveal very religiously and spiritually motivated reasons for the Crusades with little economic benefit for the participants.

It's as ridiculous as the idea that Islamic terrorism occurs because of extreme poverty.

[zrweber]

It's actually quite easy to prove God.

[Panzerbear]

It's actually quite easy to prove God.

really?

www.godisimaginary.com

[Tankbuster]

really?

www.godisimaginary.com

Yeah that's a great site

[the_mango55]

I don't get the point of the thread.

If there's nothing you can do to convince people there is no god, then there is no god?

But if there is something you can do to prove there is no god, then what?

It sounds like you already have your mind made up.

[roy34543]

No, of course not. I and many other atheists can be convinced if god shows up here, and demostrates some magic and tells us that he truly loves us, and explains why crazy things like Crusades ever occured.

Because we're reasonable men and we're willing to accept anything for good reasons

Frist, youd probably remian skeptic, its your nature. You would think its a guy in a suit like santa claus.
Second, Just because you dont "see" god doesnt mean he doesnt exist, the root of the entire problem. and if you tell me that he couldnt possibly exist in an abstract sense then your proably a little bit narrow-minded.

[AqD]

It's actually quite easy to prove God.

Frist, youd probably remian skeptic, its your nature. You would think its a guy in a suit like santa claus.
Second, Just because you dont "see" god doesnt mean he doesnt exist, the root of the entire problem. and if you tell me that he couldnt possibly exist in an abstract sense then your proably a little bit narrow-minded.

No.

I asked if there is any possible thing that can be used to prove "God doesn't exist" for the Christians. It's a hypothesis, since I don't have any solid evidence to prove god exists or not exists.

It's as simple as that:
1) I think my friend Bob lives well
2) But, if someone finds him sick on his bed, then my thought is wrong.

Or that:
1) I think god may not exist because I cannot feel him
2) If he shows up (visually or in an abstract sense), my thought must be wrong and I'd believe god is true.

Now, I just wonder if there is "point 2" for Christians' belief in god, to show he may not exist?
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[PointOfViewGun]

After so many discussions, I wonder is there any possible thing - anything at all - that someone can use to convince Christians that their god doesn't exist? (not by the god saying "i'm no god" )

If there isn't any, their religion must be false and the believers are just crazy.... Agreed?

Can you prove that it doesn't exist?

[AqD]

Can you prove that it doesn't exist?

No, of course not. The thread is not to discuss if god exists or not.

Please read post #7
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[removeduser_487563287433]

After so many discussions, I wonder is there any possible thing - anything at all - that someone can use to convince Christians that their god doesn't exist? (not by the god saying "i'm no god" )

If there isn't any, their religion must be false and the believers are just crazy.... Agreed?

Well you can't prove their God does not exist, so no there isn't. And really I think it's morally dubious to be actively attempting to convert people.

[AqD]

Well you can't prove their God does not exist, so no there isn't. And really I think it's morally dubious to be actively attempting to convert people.

ewww.. it seems nobody gets the point

all right I edited the original post. Please read again.

The thread is not to discuss whether god exists or not.


But we should covert them, of course. Some religions have proved themselves very harmful and should be stopped.
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[removeduser_487563287433]

I wasn't. I said you cannot prove it.

[neoptolemos]

The belief for God or a supreme power that controls or set the rules for our lives is a human characteristic seen from early human societies such as the cro Magnon societies.

Thus it is really hard to convince someone that there is no god.In my opinion even the atheists have replaced the regular image of God with something else..(for example reason or science)

[removeduser_487563287433]

I do not think that is true in the slightest. Science is not worshipped, and it is not assumed to have all the answers. Or even, necessarily, the potential to have all the answers.

[czePowerslave]

I do not think that is true in the slightest. Science is not worshipped, and it is not assumed to have all the answers. Or even, necessarily, the potential to have all the answers.

With one question answered many new occur. Thats science.
But religion is rigid.

[neoptolemos]

Off course it is not "worshiped"!
It is though very highly granted for some people who have lost their faith or they do not believe by their will.

All people tend to put something above them and their abilities....

for example some believe in luck ,some others in God and some they are supporting the idea of the "possibilities"