my friend tell me that "I feel it is very fast"

[Himitu]

first,sorry about my English.

my friend tell me , he over the game in 46 truns,before 4th crusade.

and he cant taste BC's fun.

i just think that, if everyone think about that, it's trouble.

[anaztazioch]

46 turns to take 50+ settlements (8 in start is most i think)...
Taking that to form an army strong enough to make succesfull siege takes 5 turns, than its atleast 1 turn of siege (4 turns to build balista makers + they make your army moves super slow). + WAlking betwean settlements, + leaving troops behind to dont lose them to rebels + keeping economy.
Even if having 3 armies, so you can take 3 settlements in every turn, you still have to meet AI stacks + staring armies + AI garisson script (spawning troops in besieged settlments).

I find it hard to belive that 46 turns without cheatis is enough for any faction.

[Thema'zandaar]

Maybe he was playing on easy?

[Cayo_Julio_Cesar]

46 turns to take 50+ settlements (8 in start is most i think)...
Taking that to form an army strong enough to make succesfull siege takes 5 turns, than its atleast 1 turn of siege (4 turns to build balista makers + they make your army moves super slow). + WAlking betwean settlements, + leaving troops behind to dont lose them to rebels + keeping economy.
Even if having 3 armies, so you can take 3 settlements in every turn, you still have to meet AI stacks + staring armies + AI garisson script (spawning troops in besieged settlments).

I find it hard to belive that 46 turns without cheatis is enough for any faction.

Actually, it's very possible, at least i did with the byz, since there are so many rich settlements nearby and sirya is an AOR , you just have to atack all the time , and sometimes the AI lets some cicties unprotected so you can rush there while their armies are not close, kinda like genghis khan strategy, invading to and from their very center and avoiding field battles.

As for the economy if you take like 1 or 2 cities a turn , keep a few castles and improve trading (buildings. not merchant units) you don't have to worry much , as long as you exterminate all the ones that are not your own culture.

As for troop spawning, there you have to be future-thinking, for example at the start with the byz i made almost every town including the ones that i conquered a city for + money, xept for chyprus (strategical position meant troops for anatolia, sirya , and egypt) and trebizond ( anatolia , georgia , old armenia , the black sea, and russia)
then when i conquered the very military advanced sirya , and specialy with Acre on my hands I just had the world at my feet

I did most things with my king and heir then with some generals that became very loyal after having so many victories with the king/heir.

So did i do in a Rajput campaign,is pretty easy to conquer the whole india and then vassal the ghorids with an army of loooooots of archers leaded by elephants and a few mercenary spearmen as long as you take Dheli before them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...49#post1960049

One hundred and six provinces (106) captured in 23 turns, Vanilla 1.3, no hacking game files, no mods, no cheats.

So far as I know, that's the fastest blitz run ever, and it was done by yours truly, Askthepizzaguy. For those who don't believe, Grog copied my results and managed to get it done in 25 turns. So this is verified, duplicated, and proven with turn-by-turn screenshots.

In case anyone cares.

If anyone wants to duplicate this themselves on their computer, I can send them the save file for each and every single turn. You can see every move I made and how absolutely legal it was.

(I hate it when people say it's impossible...)

[DJ_JasonX]

hi ATPG! another org-ah registered here for BC purposes, i see.

congrats on regaining your blitz title. have you done any BC blitzes yet?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, I did a BC blitz, entitled: Bloody Crescent, Rise of the Turks, and another one called Bloody Crescent II, Wrath of the Pizzaguy.

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...loody+crescent

And I've also done "duels" against human players, 1 vs 1, in Broken Crescent, and blitzed pretty good.

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103796

Oh the memorable duels...

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpo...&postcount=332

Here, I use the Ghorids to take 46 provinces in 27 turns... dwarfing my human opponent, Jerusalem.

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpo...&postcount=458

I use Sindh to take 41 provinces by turn 29... greatly overtaking my human opponent, Ayyubids.

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpo...&postcount=366

I use Oman to take 23 regions by turn 18, victory over my human opponent, Jerusalem.

I wasnt trying to go for any record with these runs, and I could probably do better in Single Player mode, as I did in the Bloody Crescent.

[Himitu]

he dont need that , only war,war,war. money can come by war,and army is mercenary army.

i will put the sav later.

and he choose v/v

[Himitu]

here are som pics.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

here is last battle

[The Noble Lord]

Hi,


Its just too soon to finish the game in 46 turns.
Plus, how you gonna enjoy it if you finish it that quick.
Tell your friend to take it easy, and to enjoy it to the fullest.
46 turns, its just too soon.



CHEERS

[Himitu]

yes,of course i think so

but some players like war-->war-->war , then they finish game very soon.

here is his sav's link : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2014

[The Noble Lord]

yes,of course i think so

but some players like war-->war-->war , then they finish game very soon.

here is his sav's link : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2014

Tell your friend to pick Immamate of Oman, Malikhate of Sindh, and Kingdom of Makuria. Any of these three factions will be just fine. On VH/VH and not tov use any cheats.
It should take him longer this time. When I played Oman, it was pain in the neck first 40-50 turns, then you start organizing.
Longer he is playing it he will enjoy it more.


CHEERS

[eggthief]

blitzkrieging is an overpowered tactic, let your friend play a campaign with the malikate of Sindh, those should be way harder.

[reavertm]

or Immamate of Oman - they're dirt poor from the very beginning

[Askthepizzaguy]

blitzkrieging is an overpowered tactic, let your friend play a campaign with the malikate of Sindh, those should be way harder.

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpo...&postcount=458

Granted, its not 50 regions, YET.... but 41 regions controlled in 29 turns with the Malikate of Sindh on VH/VH

...against a human opponent, the ayyubids.

[Himitu]

he del the MOD ..T_T...

no matter what country he use,just he think maybe mercenary army is too mightiness.

[Thema'zandaar]

he del the MOD ..T_T...

no matter what country he use,just he think maybe mercenary army is too mightiness.

Factions need strong mercs in the beginning to take over some rebel settlements. He may have finished the game but I doubt he's enjoyed it.

[Himitu]

Factions need strong mercs in the beginning to take over some rebel settlements. He may have finished the game but I doubt he's enjoyed it.

yes,i agree with you . i dont think he's enjoyed it.

but too strong mercs made the game too fast to finish.

i think mercs' morale should be more low.

[AdmiringtheEnemyeh?]

Baghdad is a huge economic powerhouse, and since the AI will struggle to capture it ur going to have an financial paradise the rest of the game. Plus yea blitzing isnt really the best way to go if you're looking for a particularly tough game.

[the_mango55]

Yeah the AI is notoriously terrible against blitz tactics.

I prefer to consolidate the nearby rebel settlements, then sit on my rear just defending myself for at least 40-50 turns, allowing the AI to build up.

This makes it more fun I think.