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    How is the king and heir system work? Will sauroman have an uruk-hai (spelling?) heir? and also portraits?

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    I'm assuming he would otherwise the game wouldn't work. Although having an heir would be pointless if they do Isengard the same way they did the Rome Total War version, where his faction was dependent on his survival.

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    I actually like the idea of the RTW version. I'd say Saruman should be the immortal faction leader, not fight in battles and just stay in Orthanc. His Uruk-Hai should lead the armies, such as Lurtz and Ugluk. Would be the most realistic choice imo and my personal choice as well. I wouldn't have problems with allowing a Uruk-Hai to become faction-leader of Isengard though
    It looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast...

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    can you not raise the life expectancy of kings and princes?

    Dwarves lived 250 years on average
    Elves were immortal
    Men were mortal and those of Rohan had a short life, where as the kings of gondor and of old, had a fairly long life expectancy.

    And what about Stewards, are they going to be added?

    Ah, and the members of the white council such as: Saruman, Gandalf an Radagast the brown, were also immortal, but at the end of the third age, they leave middle earth with most of the elves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble44 View Post
    can you not raise the life expectancy of kings and princes?

    Dwarves lived 250 years on average
    Elves were immortal
    Men were mortal and those of Rohan had a short life, where as the kings of gondor and of old, had a fairly long life expectancy.

    And what about Stewards, are they going to be added?

    Ah, and the members of the white council such as: Saruman, Gandalf an Radagast the brown, were also immortal, but at the end of the third age, they leave middle earth with most of the elves.

    Ya we can do that, I think that we are just going to use Kings instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    Ya we can do that, I think that we are just going to use Kings instead.
    GREAT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    Ya we can do that, I think that we are just going to use Kings instead.
    Use kings? How are you going to do that when this mod starts? Does Aragorn start as king of Gondor?
    It looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iustinianos View Post
    Use kings? How are you going to do that when this mod starts? Does Aragorn start as king of Gondor?
    no, we just ignore the details.

    it's impossible to change the title during the campaign, so we must choose, either king or steward.
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    Who should be the faction leader of Isengard then?

    I say Lurtz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    no, we just ignore the details.

    it's impossible to change the title during the campaign, so we must choose, either king or steward.
    That's a pity. So when you're going for kings, will you use Denethor or Aragorn as first king? It would be weird though since none of them was king during the War of the Ring....
    It looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    no, we just ignore the details.

    it's impossible to change the title during the campaign, so we must choose, either king or steward.
    This might only work with Kingdoms but it's worth a try

    in the britannia campaign, william wallace emerges, so...i was thinking, maybe, a ranger from the north could emerge, and become faction heir (scrypt).
    Then the Stewerd of Gondor(Denethor) dies unexpectadly( another planned death) and so... Aragorn becomes king.

    But this might just be pure Wobble immagination

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    I say Lurtz
    Lurtz is a made up character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightgalrs View Post
    Lurtz is a made up character.
    Arda is a made up world.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    Arda is a made up world.....
    At least it was made up by Tolkien, not Peter Jackson. PJ isn't allowed to make stuff up .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckster View Post
    At least it was made up by Tolkien, not Peter Jackson. PJ isn't allowed to make stuff up .
    And your not allowed to use PJ's name in vain ,but did that stop you?

    The movies were some of the best films in history, so b4 u make fun of Peter Jackson I show you what you could be watching!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjt6...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Red 1 View Post
    And your not allowed to use PJ's name in vain ,but did that stop you?

    The movies were some of the best films in history, so b4 u make fun of Peter Jackson I show you what you could be watching!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjt6...eature=related
    Agreed, peter jackson's films were great!

    omg, I hate that video you just posted a link to............ ROBOTS!!!
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    Oh, I forgot about the animated ones. I've seen the boxes, but never watched it.

    Yes, the movies were some of the best ever, and that was probably the wrong smiley to convey my meaning. Honestly, the first time I read through FOTR after seeing the movie, I kept wondering why Lurtz didn't show up . I forgot he was unique to the movie after all the love he got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    Arda is a made up world.....
    I totally missed that guys post it was so small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    Arda is a made up world.....
    So true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Code_Knight View Post
    Arda is a made up world.....
    and has a god, Tolkien

    Glorfindel, the Lord of the House of the Golden Flower

    ...Glorfindel was tall and straight, his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of joy, his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music, on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was strength...

    ... the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power...


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