Gondor VS Rohan

[Nikos]

Who do you think would win if they ever entered a war? I think that Rohan would have some initial success on the battlefield but would eventually lose not being able to take Gondor's fortified cities. Also, Gondor has much more manpower.

[Varjon]

Gondor would win easily, Gondor has lots of heavy infantry and spearmen so it would be much easier for Gondor to defend and conquest cities.

[Darth Ravenous]

I agree. Also they have very good heavy calvary.

[Varjon]

I agree. Also they have very good heavy calvary.

Yes, and I think only way how Rohan could win Gondor would be that they use light missile cavalry units on battlefields.

[Darth Ravenous]

But they would never get inside one of there cities.

[Nikos]

Yes, and I think only way how Rohan could win Gondor would be that they use light missile cavalry units on battlefields.

Yeah, Rohan's Horse Archers would be Gondor's weakness. Horse Archers destroy Infantry (Remember Carrae) thats why I think Rohan might have a few battlefield successes before Gondor finally wore them down.

[The Count(er)]

I think it'd be a tie Gondor's infantry would never make it to Rohan without being ran over and unless Rohan taught their horses to climb ladders Rohan will never capture a city

[Nikos]

I think it'd be a tie Gondor's infantry would never make it to Rohan without being ran over and unless Rohan taught their horses to climb ladders Rohan will never capture a city

It would be exactly like the Byzantine Bulgarian wars. The Bulgarians would destroy the Byzantines in the field, but whenever they tried to attack a city they would get their butts kicked. Then when Byzantium had time to gather a large force Bulgaria's armies couldn't stand against Byzantium and it was conquered

[Inhuman One]

In the movies Rohan seems more powerfull than Gondor though. Gondor didnt get reinforcements of their own in the end.

I think that Rohan would be good with hit and run attacks since speed is their advantage. They would be good at butchering slower groups of soldiers that move between cities, like reinforcements.

Gondor has better equipment, but as far as I saw in the movies, their soldiers arent as brave as those of Rohan. More diciplined yes, but I would gues the Rohan troops would have a better morale and might be more eager to fight.

To me they sort of look like vikings on horseback.

[The Big Red 1]

In the movies Rohan seems more powerfull than Gondor though. Gondor didnt get reinforcements of their own in the end.

I think that Rohan would be good with hit and run attacks since speed is their advantage. They would be good at butchering slower groups of soldiers that move between cities, like reinforcements.

Gondor has better equipment, but as far as I saw in the movies, their soldiers arent as brave as those of Rohan. More diciplined yes, but I would gues the Rohan troops would have a better morale and might be more eager to fight.

To me they sort of look like vikings on horseback.

You have to remember Gondor had a much more grim situation. IMO.

And you can't make generalization on Morale based on the movies.

[bepo]

I think gondor would ultimately win, even if rohan could beat gondor in the field, I can't see rohan having the forces to invade minis tirith.

[The Big Red 1]

I think gondor would ultimately win, even if rohan could beat gondor in the field, I can't see rohan having the forces to invade minis tirith.

Heck mordor needed Gronf to break through

[bepo]

Heck mordor needed Gronf to break through

Not to mention mordor having tens of thousands of orcs, nazgul, and trolls and mumakil. I could see gondor taking helms deep.

[coggser]

i agree with inhuman one, the hit and run would absolutely ware gondor down

[Nikos]

In the movies Rohan seems more powerfull than Gondor though. Gondor didnt get reinforcements of their own in the end.

I think that Rohan would be good with hit and run attacks since speed is their advantage. They would be good at butchering slower groups of soldiers that move between cities, like reinforcements.

Gondor has better equipment, but as far as I saw in the movies, their soldiers arent as brave as those of Rohan. More diciplined yes, but I would gues the Rohan troops would have a better morale and might be more eager to fight.

To me they sort of look like vikings on horseback.

Aren't as Brave as Rohirrim soldiers? So fighting against huge monster trolls and Nazgul isn't brave? Yes the men of Rohan would have been more eager to fight but that doesn't mean they would win. Don't forget Alexander defeated light Cav. all the time with HEavy cav and Heavy Infantry.

[Logik]

Gondor would win but after a long and bloody series of battles.

[Varjon]

In the movies Rohan seems more powerfull than Gondor though. Gondor didnt get reinforcements of their own in the end.

I think that Rohan would be good with hit and run attacks since speed is their advantage. They would be good at butchering slower groups of soldiers that move between cities, like reinforcements.

Gondor has better equipment, but as far as I saw in the movies, their soldiers arent as brave as those of Rohan. More diciplined yes, but I would gues the Rohan troops would have a better morale and might be more eager to fight.

To me they sort of look like vikings on horseback.

Well in my opinion (basing on the books) soldiers of Gondor weren't less brave, probably even more brave than soldiers of Rohan. :hmmm: And as Nikos said, Gondor had much harder enemy than Rohan, most of their foughts, expect last one in Helm's Deep were fought against barbaric savage men of Dunland. At least I would be more eager to fight against unarmored barbarian on horseback than against trolls without horse.

[jbersie]

In the movies Rohan seems more powerfull than Gondor though. Gondor didnt get reinforcements of their own in the end.

I think that Rohan would be good with hit and run attacks since speed is their advantage. They would be good at butchering slower groups of soldiers that move between cities, like reinforcements.

Gondor has better equipment, but as far as I saw in the movies, their soldiers arent as brave as those of Rohan. More diciplined yes, but I would gues the Rohan troops would have a better morale and might be more eager to fight.

To me they sort of look like vikings on horseback.

If you read the books the main forces of Gondor where actually south of the city fighting off the Corsairs of Umbar. When the army of the dead cam in the movies instead it was 20,000 reinforcments from the southern part of the realm of gondor where most of the population was.

[Eleril]

Actually despite what the movies may show you Rohan did have some capable heavy infantry swordsmen and Gondor had some capable cavalry.

Agreed only with the second.Rohan never had heavy infantry.

For Rohans side the Westfold which is the area where helms deep is located was noted for their superior heavy infantry when compared to most of Rohan. The reason they were not in the movie was they were at the time holding the fords Isen against the Dunlendings.

The reason why you think that there were superior heavy infantry swordsmen in the Westfold is that Teodret,the King's son,dismounted some of his Eored and placed them one one side of the Atrad.Yet they were overrun by the forces of Isengard and lets face it-this wasn't a greater assault than what Gondor had to meet in Osgiliath several times and their infantry did their job better.

And for Gondor the Men of Dol amroth were noted as excellent heavy cavalry they were basically well trained battering rams. The southern regions of gondor where most of the people lived were very rural outside of the cities and had access to many horses. Far western Gondor was almost like the nomad factions because there were few big settlements and most of the people there wer nomadic hunter gathers

Agreed about the Knights of Dol Amroth but not about the rest.The riders of Gondor were mainly messengers and very often not of Numenorian descent-I'm almost quoting the words of Tolkien.

[Darth Ravenous]

Yeah and Rohan would never be able to breach the White City EVER.