Unit ideas: Orcs of the misty mountains

[FREDREX]

This faccion relies his stron in numbers, from gundabad to moria, all orcs of this faction are vary small whit great eyes like in the movie, mantain a good economy thanks to the sacking of old mines of the dwarves but after the batle of the five armies its more weaker

Sacking Orc: Untrained orcs his only wish its steal but obligated to figth for his captains. Very lower moral.

Orcs form gundabad: Whit scimitars and small round shield are basic infantry but weaker and lower moral.

Axemen orcs: This unit handed small axes made by dwarves and piezes of dwarves armor

Armored: orcs: they are like axemen orcs, but whit scimitars and a good armor of the dwarves

Montains archers: Whit bow of bad quality and no skill for shoting the cause minimum downs form his enemies.

Moria infantry: After the sacking of moria they found a good reserves of mitril and they used in his armor, they armed whit axes forom dwarves

goblin spearman: They hate and fear the horses this spearman are very weak but can mantain the line agiants horses in a short time

Great goblin: The most big clas of goblin they are fearful and dangerous whit a dwarve armor and a great sword are the elite of this faction

Warrior from the chieftain: the most great warrior work as bodyguard of his general or king

Warg riders: the only unit of cavalry are good force capable of cause downs in the enemy

Trol cave: Stupid and strong they are recluted by the orcs to figt againts the dwarves

[The Big Red 1]

Nice list.

To bad I can't help because I am very sneaky

[ccllnply]

I it just me or did we already have a huge thread about The orcs of the Misty Mts.? I don't think we really need a new one

[Glorfindel]

i don't like the names

[ccllnply]

i don't like the names

For the first time ever! I agree with you

[Iustinianos]

I it just me or did we already have a huge thread about The orcs of the Misty Mts.? I don't think we really need a new one

We indeed did, it had like 400 replies

[The Big Red 1]

We indeed did, it had like 400 replies

I remember that thread! good times good times.

[Iustinianos]

I remember that thread! good times good times.

Anyway, we never really made a list of units. Let's do it here

Nice list, I suggest several more Troll units. One or two heavy ones, maybe one suicide/beserker Troll unit. Also I think there should be some more archer unit, including a (heavy) armoured one.

[Glorfindel]

you can make a heavy armored archer goblin that has torpedos and shoots laser from his eyes and has a giant Axe-lightsaber

[The Big Red 1]

Anyway, we never really made a list of units. Let's do it here

Nice list, I suggest several more Troll units. One or two heavy ones, maybe one suicide/beserker Troll unit. Also I think there should be some more archer unit, including a (heavy) armoured one.

I like the troll idea but it might be a little weird to have more than one troll.

[ccllnply]

Well actually looking back at page 2, that thread was closed. So I suppoes this thread should stay open

[FREDREX]

And remember the detail of the dwarve armor for the orcs

[ccllnply]

Orcs form gundabad: Whit scimitars and small round shield are basic infantry but weaker and lower moral.

Moria infantry: After the sacking of moria they found a good reserves of mitril and they used in his armor, they armed whit axes forom dwarves

These are the 2 units I've got a problem with. Its not a good idea to name units by the place they come from. By doing that, it means only Moria Infantry and Orcs from Gunabad will be recruitable from Moria and Gunabad. Basically if a unit is called "Orcs from Gunabad" then that is the only unit recruitable from Gunabad because all the Orcs recruited in Gunabad are from Gunabad

[Glorfindel]

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Goblin Swords
Goblin Spears
Goblin Archers(better attack than Orc Archers but less defence)
Goblin Chosen Archers
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Orc Swords
Orc Spears
Orc Archers
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Mountain Trolls
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Warg Riders
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Uruk Swords (they had few)
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Chieftain's Guard
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[The Big Red 1]

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Goblin Swords
Goblin Spears
Goblin Archers(better attack than Orc Archers but less defence)
Goblin Chosen Archers
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Orc Swords
Orc Spears
Orc Archers
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Mountain Trolls
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Warg Riders
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Uruk Swords (they had few)


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Chieftain's Guard
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Your names aren't much better.

[Glorfindel]

warrior of the chieftain is better than chieftain's guard?

[Iustinianos]

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Goblin Swords
Goblin Spears
Goblin Archers(better attack than Orc Archers but less defence)
Goblin Chosen Archers
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Orc Swords
Orc Spears
Orc Archers
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Mountain Trolls
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Warg Riders
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Uruk Swords (they had few)
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Chieftain's Guard
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Uruk Swords is nonsens. Uruks/Uruk-Hai's where only used by Sauron and Saruman.

I would like to see heavy Goblin/Orc units, same kind like the Chieftain's Guard. With heavy armour and weapons they stole from the Dwarves. Would give some more balance to their roster.

Also I'd like to see one or two Warg units extra, for one because the Wargs origin from the Misty Mountains and because it would give them more balance in their unit roster.

And like I said I would really like more Troll-Units. Would be realistic since there where several kinds of Trolls in those regions. Like Cave-Trolls, Hill-Trolls, Mountain-Trolls. I'd reckon the Goblins to use these Trolls and arm them for war purposes. So, there could be a low-budget Troll with a basic axe/hammer/whatever. And also a heavy armoured one, sort of like those in siege of Minas Tirith(movie) but somewhat different. I think two-three Troll-Units should be enough

Good list Glorfindel!

[The Count(er)]

how about mounted warg archers and javelin throwers(a name change from that should be done) they can have terrible accuracy due to the issues of trying to shoot from a wargs back and have a decent attack too because of their mounts

[Glorfindel]

Uruk is not nonesense cause check out this

in the chapter "Bridge of Kazad Dum"

a huge orc-chieftain, almost man-high, clad in black mail from head to foot, leaped into the chamber; behind him his followers clustered in the doorway. His broad flat face was swart, his eyes were like coals, and his tongue was red; he wielded a great spear. With a thrust of his huge hide shield he turned Boromir's sword and bore him backwards, throwing him to the ground. Diving under Aragorn's blow with the speed of a striking snake he charged into the Company and thrust with his spear straight at Frodo.

what does that mean??

[The Big Red 1]

Uruk is not nonesense cause check out this

in the chapter "Bridge of Kazad Dum"

a huge orc-chieftain, almost man-high, clad in black mail from head to foot, leaped into the chamber; behind him his followers clustered in the doorway. His broad flat face was swart, his eyes were like coals, and his tongue was red; he wielded a great spear. With a thrust of his huge hide shield he turned Boromir's sword and bore him backwards, throwing him to the ground. Diving under Aragorn's blow with the speed of a striking snake he charged into the Company and thrust with his spear straight at Frodo.

what does that mean??

There is a huge orc cheiftan