New faction for Diadochi - instead of Germans

[RedFox]

With an ongoing debate on the main XGM forums about new faction ideas, I decided to completely remove the Scythians in favor of rather more interesting factions.

Anyone can suggest their historical faction ideas here, I will get the poll started with 2 factions, but if you have a good background for another faction, I will add it to the poll list. - I will stay neutral on this.


-) Kingdom of Syracuse: This faction would include the powerful city of Syracuse and possibly a city in the center of Sicily.
The Greek cities in Spain could also be given under Sicily's control.

It would be just another Greek faction, similar to that of IGCS and Achaea

-) Kingdom of Illyria: This would replace the rebel stacks and make a new faction right next to Rome. It will probably have low level units and not that many elites. A mediocre army compared to what Rome has - Semi-Barbarian.

-) Barbarian Tribes: To add a little flavor to battles in the depths of barbarian forests, a faction spanning many cities in the barbarian lands. They would make raids against other factions like true barbarians ever. Their faction colors will not differ from that of the rebels and in a sturdy alliance, they will also not attack rebel cities, but concentrate on more important errands as Aedui, Arverni, Iberians, Germans, Dacians and whoever else blocks their path.
An unplayable faction that would add some interesting twists and turns to campaigns.


If you have any suggestions of your own, feel free to share them here. And also explain why you chose the faction - decision will be still made on the relevance of your posts.

[General Decius]

Imma go with the Illyrians...though i can't vote, Demetrious the Cruel has an invincible army from the start and I guess my reason behind it is they seem as if they make more of an impact on my games so they have my (imaginary vote).

[Maraxus]

I voted for Illyria just because they have better potential for a more interesting unit roster than Syracuse. Like Thrace, Illyria could have a good mix of Barbarian and Hellenistic units, whereas Syracuse would be another pure Greek faction.

[RedFox]

Well, I gave the Illyrian rebels a relatively good army to represent their strong presence in the region. Romans didn't care about that though - after a few stacks, the Illyrians were conquered.
Might not be that way with a real faction - though that part of the world is already getting crowded, while it would definitely hold down Epirus and nobody would want a war against Illyrians when they're fighting the Romans.

Maraxus: You are right with that - Illyrians would be ~40% hellenic 60% Illyric/Barbarian, so some quite interesting units could be made.
The biggest drawback with Syracuse really is that there is nothing new with them and the IGCS seem to cover that part quite well.

[Ceki]

Well, I gave the Illyrian rebels a relatively good army to represent their strong presence in the region. Romans didn't care about that though - after a few stacks, the Illyrians were conquered.
l.

Romans had big problems with Illyrians, especially with Delmats. In Illyria there were noumerous tribes. Some willingly accepted Roman rule, some fought Romans until 6 AD.

[Dom9127]

Illyria would be unique, and a better use of the slot than a Generic Greek faction imho.

[Unknown Soldier]

Syracuse/spanish greeks should have access to (numidian), iberian and gallic mercenaries in their roster obviously as AOR. (if you include Cyrenee er..how do spell that..between egypt and carthage, and maybe elephants).

I voted for them.

but looks like Illyria is gonna win 6/7

[Whiskeyjack]

I voted Illyria because Macedon get their own way a bit to easily at the moment.

[Mithra]

i would say syracuse just becasue i have alwasy wanted to play as syracuse as i am facinated by syrcause and especially dionysius the elder however illyrian would be gd not both lol in time

[General Decius]

D: How do i vote?!!?

[Kleomenis]

now that u have enough posts go to the top of the thread and choose the faction u prefer and press the vote button. piece of cake.

[General Decius]

hmmm...i guess it had to update err somethin though i voted, i dont feel like so much of a loser now that my vote isnt imaginery o_o

[Kataki]

Personally I think a barbarian faction sounds really cool

[Lord Romanus III]

Syracuse. I think they could make taking Sicily really hard for either the Romans or Carthaginians. Then again, they wouldn't be much in terms of "new stuff".

[AqD]

Oh this is sad!

Can I suggest a Bosporan faction? It's a small kingdom in the north of black sea. Its people are settled greeks mixed with scythians, thracians, and sarmatians.

From wikipedia: The Bosporan kingdom or the Kingdom of the Cimmerian Bosporus was an ancient state, located in eastern Crimea and the Taman Peninsula on the shores of the Cimmerian Bosporus (see Strait of Kerch). It is interesting as the first truly 'Hellenistic' state - in the sense of one in which a mixed population adopted the Greek language and civilization.

RS and my RTR mini-mod have the faction. In Osprey's "Sarmatians" you could find some pics of their army. There is little information but the faction should be interesting (it's a hellenistic one!)

[amarok]

Syracuse souds like a great additon!

Rome is very strong and if they had another rival for domination of Italy and Sicily I think that could only add to the already great balance.

For instance, as Epirus I have a heck of a time with Rome... (so far have only defeated them on Normal/Easy)

If Syracuse started allied to Epirus and could maybe get involved in that fight, I think that would work very well.

Whatever you choose will be great, but I'd love it if it were another Greek faction, as those are the one's I always most enjoy playing (as they generally have the most added depth), this is part of Extended Greek Mod after all :-).

Thanks for the great work!

[amarok]

I should clarify - my troubles with Rome were on the v 0.8 b version.

Have not yet had a chance to try v 0.9.

Sorry if this is out of date, but on that earlier verison I also found playing as the GCS very difficult (especially taking on Macedon).

[Zephyr101]

Im going to go with illyrians, if my input helps ><

[Spartan198]

Syracuse is my pick.

[Pinkkiller]

only horse archer nation gone!! pfft *votes for bosporans even since that is not an option*...