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    Of course I know that people will judge this from face value, or decide to get emo about the actual steps to implement something like this, but I am sure if you keep reading you will see the sense in this.

    A universal language could be made for all peoples and all countries as a secondary langauge, meaning it is not taught over the national language so no national pride is lost. The benefits of this would be that people all over the world would have a good method to communicate with each other.

    The U.N. has a man who knows almost every spoken language in the world, he would be a great source to create this "universal common".

    Just think, instead of forcing students in school to learn whichever language whatever X minority is causing to occur (i know from the experience of being forced to learn spanish which I still don't quite understand) we could just use the common language.

    You just start with simple phrases and words that are common unto all people, like food, water, hello, goodbye, ect. Then once the grassroots education effort takes off, you can expand and improve the common language.

    You do not have to force people to learn, people would decide to learn because of its practical value, countries would implement it into education because of this as well.

    In an age of global communication that can occur almost instantly, why have we as humans not taken this most practical of steps?
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    I have the perfect idea for that language, can you guess it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    I have the perfect idea for that language, can you guess it?
    Oh! Me me me, let me guess ummm . . . Basic from Star Wars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Oh! Me me me, let me guess ummm . . . Basic from Star Wars?
    It depends on which country you watched Star Wars in...

    Let me tell you its the most spoken language in the world, even though not the largest first language.
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    binary! binary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirfiggin View Post
    binary! binary!
    Wrong way...
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    Duh. English.
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    There have been a number of efforts to create an artificial universal language. Espiranto was the most successful, but it is an ugly and gramatically unsophisticated mangle of a means of communication.

    In the 'Culture' sci-fi novels by Iain Banks, a bored supply ship's (enormously sophisticated) AI takes 0.3 of a second to concoct the most beautiful, nuanced, phonetically varied and precise language the human brain can cope with. The language becomes the lingua franca of the universe: 'Marain'.

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    english is getting pretty close to a universal language, organically.

    the worlds most powerful nations either have it as their first language, or have it as the most learned second language. its an official language of virtually every important international organisation...

    there really isnt a need for any 'designed' language.
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    English is what I meant...

    Why create a new language when an existing one that works already exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    English is what I meant...

    Why create a new language when an existing one that works already exists.
    There was a movement on college campuses, a few years ago, to teach "Elvish" ... that's right, Tolkien's beautiful and complete language, created for his fantasy world of Middle Earth. Since it was a no one's language, a lot of people thought that almost everyone would accept it.

    I thought the idea was nutty (even though I like Tolkien's language), because a universal language exists, and that language is ... as you said ... English. Besides, Elvish is not an easy language, created by one of the world's greatest linguists.

    Someone would always object, because its creator was an Englishman!

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    As great a man as he was, I wouldn't call him one of the world's greatest linguists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfTheIsles View Post
    As great a man as he was, I wouldn't call him one of the world's greatest linguists.
    I think Tolkein deserves credit for his linguistical skill, he made up loads of languages and then decided to write a story so that he could use them. Have you ever read the simirillion? Full of elvish and it hurts head to begin with. Still, interlingua FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    Someone would always object, because its creator was an Englishman!
    Imagine if the Anglo-Saxon countries should speak French because it's the lingua franca, you should be agree with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    Imagine if the Anglo-Saxon countries should speak French because it's the lingua franca, you should be agree with that?
    That was my point. Someone will always object.

    There is a lingua franca, today, and that language is English, solely due to the former influence of the British Empire, and the modern power of the United States.

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    And what I wiped myself with was Esperanto - and afterward had the same usefulness
    Wow!
    There was a movement on college campuses, a few years ago, to teach "Elvish"
    Wow!

    Things can change, and they actually do, often with unpredictable speed. The rapid fall of the Soviet empire - including the loss of the role of Russian as a "universal" language within in - is a recent indication of this. English can lose its position as a widely used (although not official) universal language in two ways. Either a new empire emerges and its language becomes universal, or a constructed language becomes very popular. I believe most people regard both of these alternatives as extremely improbable, if not impossible.
    I concur, improbable, if not impossible...until now.
    Well, Nerdic is the fastest growing language in Europe.
    It's more widely spoken than any single European language and is used by all ages.

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    I have thought of English, the only problem is that still represents a certain people, and in todays world certain nations, which of course would upset certain other peoples and nations. plus you would have the original english speakers concerned about national pride, or you'd have the type that would be all superior cuz english was the best langauge ect.
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    The only people it offends are some Frenchmen, every other nation accepts English as an international language, including China which has an older language.
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    There are so many different languages that a ton of languages would just end being snubbed in an international language. English is very useful for a universal language but just because it is Western a lot of countries will just ignore it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Temur View Post
    There are so many different languages that a ton of languages would just end being snubbed in an international language. English is very useful for a universal language but just because it is Western a lot of countries will just ignore it.
    What country?

    The second largest concentration of English speakers is India followed by Nigeria.
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