Rhun Unit Ideas

[The Big Red 1]

Little is known about Rhun besides it is a Barbarian race that hates Gondor. The only visual representation of Rhun we have are the easterlings in the movie.(who have the flag of Haradrim thus no one knows who they really are.)

I suggest that we make Rhun a very Barbaric race that is more middle eastern and has a few armored troops like the Easterlings from the movies.

Here are some ideas for regular troops

Wildmen of Rhun: Weak militia grade troops armed with clubs and furs.(like men of Dunland.)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Rhovanion Axemen: Men with Axes and little armor. (possible only mercs depending on what team wants)

Rhun Pike Militia: Like Wildmen of Rhun.

Ash Mountain Warriors: Rhun troops dressed in ORC LIKE Armor. Very Dark and evil looking with a variety of Infantry weapons.

Rhun Tribesmen: Light horsemen

Rhun Plainsmen: Javelin throwing lightly armored troops

Tribal Hunters: Light Archers

Tribal Hunting Calvary: Light Horse Archers

Raging Bullmen: Unarmored Wildmen, with Rhun Bull painted on Bear chest. Really tall and holds HUGE two handed Berserking swords. May charge without orders. (Warcry Ability)(later end unit)

Heads of the Bull: Leather armored troops, with huge halberds. Halberds have a Bull skull on them.(later end unit)

Bull Tamers: lighter medium calvary armed with a Javelin, and interwoven leather armor.

Eastern Riders: Generic Rhun Calvary,medium Muslim like chain mail with spears and shields.

Eyes of the Bull: Fast and Dangerous calvary archers. They are light quick and have powerful bows but have only a heavy robe on to protect them. Known as Eyes of the Bull because of their fast and Sentry like nature Known to cross the plains of Rhun in 3 weeks.

Melkor Lancers: on the edge of Heavy and medium Cavalry. These evil men are armed with long cruel lances, and were dark crude plate armor. They wear a dreadful black mask showinf none of their face making them look Immortal. Their Black steeds resemble those of Nazgul Horses though not as fast or deadly. They never retreat and scare enemies in front of them.










Powerful Rhun Unit like Knights A.K.A Easterlings

Easterling Swords Men: Heavily Armored with Scimitar and shield.

Easterling Spearmen: Easterlings with small shield and pike like spear.(black gate scene)

Easterling Archers: Heavy Archers with small swords.

Easterling Death Riders: Heavy Knight like Easterling Horsemen.

Easterling Flying Archers: Heavy Calvary Archers.

Easterling Axemen: Easterlings without the Helmet. Their axes have a blade like their halberds.

Generals Bodyguard.

Others:

Wainriders: Troops armed with spears (and maybe bows or Javelins) on heavy Chariots. EXTREMELY DEADLY TO INFANTRY AND CAN COMPLETELY MOW OVER LIGHT INFANTRY

Variags: (recruitable if Khand is Captured) A mixture between heavy viking and mongols wielding large two handed axes.


kataphrakts.

Kataphrakts of the Bull: Elite melee Calvary, armed with scimitar and shield. The heaviest, most powerful and slowest unit Rhun Has. (like Chivalric Knights)

Kataphrakt Bowmen: Although lighter then their melee cousins the Kataphrakt Bowmen are still heavily armored and pack a punch in melee but the powerful composite bow they carry enough power to bring lesser foes down at ease.

[Varjon]

You are right that Rhûn must have lots of barbaric units and also heavily armoured soldiers which are as strong as infantry of Gondor. It was sayid that easterlings had huge cities in the east where they worshipped Melkor in temples.

[The Big Red 1]

You are right that Rhûn must have lots of barbaric units and also heavily armoured soldiers which are as strong as infantry of Gondor. It was sayid that easterlings had huge cities in the east where they worshipped Melkor in temples.

Some say that the Blue wizards were corrupted by Sauron and taught the Rhuners how to worship Melkor. Just a theory.

I picture rhun like a horde with a few knight like units.

[Varjon]

Some say that the Blue wizards were corrupted by Sauron and taught the Rhuners how to worship Melkor. Just a theory.

I picture rhun like a horde with a few knight like units.

I think that was sayid in Book of Unfinished Tales so it's fact not just a theory

[Glorfindel]

i think that Tolkien was not very sure although as you say it is written in his books

[ccllnply]

What about Wainraiders and Varigs (spl?)

[The Big Red 1]

What about Wainraiders and Varigs (spl?)

Give me some info on them and I'll add them up there.

[ccllnply]

Wainriders:

The Wainriders were a confederation of Easterling tribes who were united by their hate of Gondor, fuelled by Sauron. Following the Great Plague which weakened Gondor, they started their raids in 1851 of the Third Age and attacked in full force five years later, defeating the Gondorian army and killing King Narmacil II. They rode in great wagons and chariots (which gave them their name), and raided the lands of Rhovanion, destroying or enslaving its people. Gondor gradually lost all of its possessions east of Anduin, save Ithilien, to them. The thirtieth king of Gondor, Calimehtar son of Narmacil, defeated the Wainriders in battle on the Dagorlad, buying some rest for his land.

However the Wainriders struck back in 1944, allying themselves with the Haradrim of Near Harad and the Variags of Khand. They managed to kill King Ondoher and both his sons, but instead of riding on to Minas Anor and taking the city, they paused to celebrate. Meanwhile, general Eärnil of Gondor's southern army had defeated the Haradrim and rode north to defend his king. He came too late to rescue Ondoher, but managed to surprise and totally defeat the Wainriders in the Battle of the Camp. Eärnil was crowned king a year later. After this defeat the might of the Wainriders was broken, and their confederation collapsed. It later turned out that their attacks were staged by Sauron to allow him to reclaim Mordor while Gondor's watch was diverted.

The Variags were from Khand, and they first appeared in the north-west of Middle-earth in 1944 of the Third Age, fighting alongside the Wainriders. They were also present during the battle of the Pelennor Fields, over a thousand years later. Little was known about them.

In the real world, Variags is another name for the Varangians, a Viking people who had contact with Russia and Constantinople, described in one Byzantine chronicle as "axe-wielding barbarians". Thus some readers think that the Variags (whose physical features are not described, although axes are mentioned in reference to the tribes of the east) must look Nordic. Games Workshop, however, interprets Variags as similar to Mongols, but with chariots and Sashimonos, in its popular The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game.

They could be a unit if Rhun or Harad captures Khand

[The Big Red 1]

Wainriders:






They could be a unit if Rhun or Harad captures Khand

Thx for the info I'll add them.

[LOTR-MOD]

Little is known about Rhun besides it is a Barbarian race that hates Gondor. The only visual representation of Rhun we have are the easterlings in the movie.(who have the flag of Haradrim thus no one knows who they really are.)

I suggest that we make Rhun a very Barbaric race that has a few armored troops like the Easterlings from the movies.

Here are some ideas for regular troops

Wildmen of Rhun: Weak militia grade troops armed with clubs and furs.(like men of Dunland.)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Rhovanion Axemen: Men with Huge Axes and little armor.

Rhun Pike Militia: Like Wildmen of Rhun.

Ash Mountain Warriors: Rhun troops dressed in ORC LIKE Armor. Very Dark and evil looking with a variety of Infantry weapons.

Rhun Tribesmen: Light horsemen

Rhun Plainsmen: Javelin throwing lightly armored troops

Tribal Hunters: Light Archers

Tribal Hunting Calvary: Light Horse Archers

Raging Bullmen: Unarmored Wildmen, with Rhun Bull painted on Bear chest. Really tall and holds HUGE two handed Berserking swords. May charge without orders. (Warcry Ability)(later end unit)

Heads of the Bull: Leather armored troops, with huge halberds. Halberds have a Bull skull on them.(later end unit)




Powerful Rhun Unit like Knights A.K.A Easterlings

Easterling Swords Men: Heavily Armored with sword and shield.

Easterling Spearmen: Easterlings with small shield and pike like spear.(black gate scene)

Easterling Archers: Heavy Archers with small swords.

Easterling Death Riders: Heavy Knight like Easterling Horsemen.

Easterling Flying Archers: Heavy Calvary Archers.

Generals Bodyguard.

Others:

Wainriders: Troops armed with spears (and maybe bows or Javelins) Riding in flat Chariots similar to those used by the Celts.

Variags: (recruitable if Khand is Captured) A mixture between heavy viking and mongols wielding large two handed axes.

good job guys you are comeing up with some grate idea's

[The Count(er)]

well he's right this time^^

[The Big Red 1]

If you guys have nothing to add I might start a Harad thread and send this one to Code_Knight.

[Iustinianos]

I've always imagined the Easterlings as a mixture between Pontus and Parthia from RTW. Good missile units including horse-archers, some very strong and armoured heavy infantry, lots of basic units(like the barbarian units you said) and excellent cavalry including chariots. Is that possible btw for MTW2? And according to the Easterlings-Wikipedia site they used katapract units, can someone confirm this? I for one have never heard of this but it would be quite cool to have them for Rhun, sounds realistic as well.

[The Big Red 1]

I've always imagined the Easterlings as a mixture between Pontus and Parthia from RTW. Good missile units including horse-archers, some very strong and armoured heavy infantry, lots of basic units(like the barbarian units you said) and excellent cavalry including chariots. Is that possible btw for MTW2? And according to the Easterlings-Wikipedia site they used katapract units, can someone confirm this? I for one have never heard of this but it would be quite cool to have them for Rhun, sounds realistic as well.

The only thing that we are sure about Rhun is they are evil Barbarians. Heck we're not even sure if easterlings are from Rhun. (their flag is the Serpent of Harad)

[ccllnply]

Easterlings are from Rhun. Easterlings is the Elvish word for "Men of the east". Because of that I don't think Easterlings were from Harad, otherwise known as the south of Middle-earth

[The Big Red 1]

Easterlings are from Rhun. Easterlings is the Elvish word for "Men of the east". Because of that I don't think Easterlings were from Harad, otherwise known as the south of Middle-earth

haradrim are from the east too. Plus I believe easterlings are from Rhun too it's just that in the movie they carry Harad banner.

[Iustinianos]

haradrim are from the east too. Plus I believe easterlings are from Rhun too it's just that in the movie they carry Harad banner.

Haradrim are from the east? Haradrim origin from Harad the most southern land in Middle-Earth, their people are also called ''southrons''.....

[The Big Red 1]

Haradrim are from the east? Haradrim origin from Harad the most southern land in Middle-Earth, their people are also called ''southrons''.....

Yes it is called southeast. Far Harad. Anyone past gondor is in the east. Not like I'm arguing with you because I agree wit you.

[ccllnply]

Haradrim are from the south. And yes, Easterlings are from Rhun

[Kip]

I agree that there should be some barbaric light units, but let's be careful not to make this a Mannish copy of Mordor.

Mordor will most likely be loads of cheap light-medium infantry (orcs) supplemented by heavy auxiliary troops (Uruks, Trolls, Evil Men). As you guys are discussing, Rhun will be loads of cheap light-medium infantry, supplemented by heavy auxiliary troops. We don't want the play style to be too similar, it should be a unique experience.

I would advocate making it an even split between armored and unarmored cannon-fodder type troops. The Ghorids from Broken Crescent illustrate my vision. Their mainstay is heavy, hard-hitting infantry; but they also have access to abundant light Ghazis, who are essentially cannon-fodder, whose tactical importance is allowing the heavies to function properly.