What I don't like about stainless steel...

**choochoo** · June 18, 2008, 12:30 PM

this is in no way ragging on the mod, infact I enjoyed it very much, but there are some things I would like to see changed.

First off AI does not seem to be much better then the origional game. You have a camp of over 1000 men and the faction you're at war at will come at you with the most pitiful army. Probably 300 men at the most. They'll beseige you every round untill you destroy them and gets fairly old.

Also I love the idea of foraging and supplies, but this makes it for a tedious game if you like to ambush. But the fact that if you run out of your supplys your general will be penalized by it by a bad trait.

Last but not least, i'm not sure if this is just my computer ( I have a fairly new one and is pretty decent). But the turns are slow as hell. It literally takes a minute for the ai to think through its turns. The origional game isn't like that for me, could be the extended map or the fact that there are more citys, I don't know.

This is just my 2 cents. I love the game and I just wish to add my opinion to improve this mod

**Barser** · June 18, 2008, 01:00 PM

Sounds like you installed some of the sub mods.

**Wolfgrin** · June 18, 2008, 01:56 PM

At what difficulty are you playing and what faction? I usually see big armies of mixed troops or small armies of excellent troops threatening me. Peace also usually holds for a while, too. Some factions are scripted to go after certain regions, say like the Danes going after Visby or Fatimids after Iraklion. No matter what you do, they will attack eventually. You might just be having a crappy game.

**napoleonrolff** · June 18, 2008, 02:54 PM

I don't like the thing that arren't in this game, this thing is the Knight, Squire...

And the "Year of campagining from DLV".
The loger age in PDER.
You can never restock your units, it takes like 9 turns to get one unit!
And the supply thing is some crap.

**Osiiic** · June 19, 2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by napoleonrolff

You can never restock your units, it takes like 9 turns to get one unit!
And the supply thing is some crap.

These are just optional submods. For example I play vanilla SS and have not such problems. You was able to choose durning installation.

**Wolfgrin** · June 18, 2008, 02:59 PM

Sounds to me as if you should go back to one of those other mods.

**PeteSKTemplar** · June 18, 2008, 03:22 PM

Well af firt I was disapointed too but I learned that what you dont like is Byg Grim reality so I repatched SS again without it. Now I use SSTC and RR submods and I like it. Its good idea to be forced using not just elite forces but all of them. So if you are bad at supply stuff just dont use that submod. Aint so hardcore player too.

**Pagonis** · June 18, 2008, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by PeteSKTemplar

Well af firt I was disapointed too but I learned that what you dont like is Byg Grim reality so I repatched SS again without it. Now I use SSTC and RR submods and I like it. Its good idea to be forced using not just elite forces but all of them. So if you are bad at supply stuff just dont use that submod. Aint so hardcore player too.

I second that. I had the same, slow turn problem with my computer. I re-patched and left out Grim Reality, and the turns are much faster.

**tup** · June 18, 2008, 04:23 PM

First off, as has been said, BYG slows down the game and adds the supply traits. If you don't like it, just apply the patch anew and uncheck the box. Or rather check the box which says "remove BYG".
Another thing, I just continued playing my BE campaign and set the King's Purse of all faction (excluding me, of course) to 20k. They build a lot more now. Of course the old problem with the AI loving to just gather their armies around their*capital*remains,*but*Lusted*said*that's*not*moddable,*so...*despite*that*you'll*see*more*units*deployed.

Somehow the forum works strange for me lately... I think I accidentially hit some keys and changed some preferences. But it's only here, does anyone else experience problems with the Fonts?

**Santiago de Pola** · June 19, 2008, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by tup

First off, as has been said, BYG slows down the game and adds the supply traits.

Actually the supply traits come in regardless to BYG's Grim Reality, as I don't have it installed but have the supply traits..and I love 'em!

BTW I think that AI uses bigger armies further you get in the game! I'm in the middle of early era campaign, playing as Novgorod and I have to say that AI deploys full stacks very often!

**strife1013** · June 18, 2008, 03:43 PM

I dont like that we have to wait for SS 7.0

KK!!!!

JK I love you guys!

**Schweizergarde** · June 18, 2008, 03:49 PM

I hate suggestions that are written like they are complaints.

**strife1013** · June 18, 2008, 03:50 PM

your not talking about my post r u?

**Schweizergarde** · June 18, 2008, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by strife1013

your not talking about my post r u?

Not at all, was refering to OP.

**strife1013** · June 18, 2008, 04:44 PM

Okay, just making sure lol.

**♔The Lizard King♔** · June 18, 2008, 04:49 PM

Doesn't the BYG thing only make the AI smarter? I"m sorry, I just downloaded the game. I love it, and I have some things I dislike about it (thats with every game though)

So what exactly does the BYG thing do? I may actually re-install it to make my game faster if I don't miss much...

**strife1013** · June 18, 2008, 04:52 PM

Read the BYG sub mod here and it will tell you all about it.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=106060

**♔The Lizard King♔** · June 18, 2008, 04:55 PM

Thank you

+rep

Forgive my Noobishness

**strife1013** · June 18, 2008, 04:58 PM

That's okay! I dont like the search button either...gosh we have become lazy!

**gurachn** · June 19, 2008, 11:46 AM

I am playing as Denmark (VH/VH, RR but no BYG) and the ai definitely uses full stacks.
They also ask for ceasefires when they are getting hammered, and seem to react fairly logically to my actions.
I am at least a hundred turns in and starting to do well, but it was very touch and go for most of the first hundred and I am by no means out of hot water even now.
Aside from a few minor quibbles, I am very pleased with the mod.