Battle Map Cities Suggestions.

[Blackheart1323]

Thread for if anyone comes up with ideas for the incorporation of battle map cities into TATW.

-historical battles, textures, etc...

[DenniZ]

More power to you, please do report back your findings!

[Poach]

Well tbh, Frodo had a massive advantage when facing the impossible that we didn't: he had a book that 100% for certain ended in him winning.

But yeah, optimism is fun

[ccllnply]

'there are good things in this world Mr.Frodo, like custom battle maps and they're worth fighting for.'

I want you to ponder on those words of a small hobbit spoken to his companion, both shorter than a man's waste, as the hateful reckless evil of all middle earth stood in front of them before you continue reading my post.

Now I want you to picture yourself on the battle map defending the walls of helm's deep or assaulting minas tirith...perhaps throwing ladders upon the black gate.

I know there has been threads asking about will there be custom battle maps before. I participated in them. This is not a thread asking if there will be custom battle maps on TATW, this one telling you there will be and deciding how we are going to make this come about. I have been told it is hopeless "Impossible...hard-coded..bla bla blah!" ENOUGH!! You know who else faced impossible? Frodo Baggins! He looked impossible in the face and he laughed. <--frodo<---impossible

Now let's get rid of the defeatist attitude. I know the great modders on this project are busy taking care of important features of the mod so I will personally take charge of the task of harassing CA into releasing a tool to do this.

I will visit their forums, mail their HQ, show up at their HQ's and goddamnit, they will release a tool to do so. This mod could be legendary with this feature...golden legend. Immortalized. So who will help me?

What say you?!

Frodo Baggins was a fiction character. Things don't work like that in real life. The reason people say its impossible to make custom settlements is because it is. Modders don't have a tool to make custom settlement and even if they did it would take a lot of work and would most likely take months if not years to create.

[The Big Red 1]

Frodo Baggins was a fiction character. Things don't work like that in real life. The reason people say its impossible to make custom settlements is because it is. Modders don't have a tool to make custom settlement and even if they did it would take a lot of work and would most likely take months if not years to create.

That's a false statement some people are getting pretty close with third party software. So the truth is there is no "defeatist attitude." There could possible be Custom Battle maps like this. And maybe maps with these settlements on them!!!! It's just a matter of when, not how, when.

[ccllnply]

That's a false statement some people are getting pretty close with third party software. So the truth is there is no "defeatist attitude." There could possible be Custom Battle maps like this. And maybe maps with these settlements on them!!!! It's just a matter of when, not how, when.

I don't see how my statement is false

Frodo Baggins was a fiction character

Thats true

Things don't work like that in real life

Thats true

The reason people say its impossible to make custom settlements is because it is

Thats true

Modders don't have a tool to make custom settlement and even if they did it would take a lot of work and would most likely take months if not years to create

And thats true. So what part is false?

[The Big Red 1]

I don't see how my statement is false



Thats true



Thats true



Thats true



And thats true. So what part is false?

That last part....give me a moment.

Look through here... http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=148754

And here's just some cool images of their cities. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=122992

[B. Ward]

That last part....give me a moment.

Look through here... http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=148754

And here's just some cool images of their cities. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=122992

those are only custom battlemaps...not sure they are working in a campaign. i believe many have tried custom settlement tiles only to get ctd. to produce the custom settlements you will need for this mod is currently "impossible" as there is no tool for it. with those settlements in those links, those are nothing more than buildings placed on a custom battlemap. if you look all the structures used in those custom battlemaps are all vanilla.

[LOTR-MOD]

That last part....give me a moment.

Look through here... http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=148754

And here's just some cool images of their cities. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=122992

wow looks good I hope they can find a way

[ccllnply]

WOW! Thats class can't believe I've never seen it before

[The Count(er)]

well we never said that it's impossible and will always be impossible we were just saying we have no way of doing it for the time being and if anyone can figure out how to make it work that would be amazing but we never had a defeatist attitude here

[Blackheart1323]

But if CA released a tool. Would that solve the problem? There's still months left on this mod, correct?

[B. Ward]

it would be a step. but i have my reservations about a tool, as there are other copyright issues associated with some of the file formats used by the engine. hence is why we have community created tools for the .mesh files. modders would still need to create these new settlements and test to ensure they would even work correctly ingame. it wouldn't even be a matter of adding new settlement models, but also the pathfinding and world files....as wolfslayer and Argantonio have done some work on these files. lots and i mean lots of work is required, even after a "tool" is created or released.

[Blackheart1323]

Bdotward, do you think Frodo didn't have reservations? Huh?! Did his reservations stop him?

[B. Ward]

as a modder, i'm just letting you know the obstacles involved

[Blackheart1323]

Good, we will feel all the better about ourselves when we cross them.

[Erunion Telcontar]

"A sword day, a red day, Ere the sun rises!"

Hah! The Rohirrim were unafraid to go hurtling headfirst into a pile of a few hundred thousand orcs! We can do a little thing like hoping that this third-party software will actually work...

{More poorly used quotations, brought to you by the Governement of Quotation mis-use...)

[ccllnply]

Ok firstly, this thing about saying "oh well, {LOTR Character} did this so anything is possbile" is just spam and not funny. Secondly in addition to what bdotward said, I don't think CA are going to break the law to release the tools for modders. If you go to their forums and spam threads about releasing the tool, they'll most likely never noticed you and you'll end up getting banned. If you send e-mails to them they'll either ignore you or politely they you they can't release it. If you continue to send e-mails to them they'll probably ignore you or call the police

I'm not having a defeatist attitude, I'm just saying the truth. Our best hope is that someone comes up with a third party tool before Empires comes out(seeing as ETW is suppoes to be easier to mod then M2TW I thought many people will bother trying any hard modding) and the team have a lot of spare time

[Blackheart1323]

..Oh shutup ccll, yes it is.

So I'm done relentlessly pushing for it. I guess there is more important features of the mod and I heard someone say textures can be altered even if city layouts can't be made which will be pretty cool in itself.



Im still gonna visit their forums though.

[ccllnply]

..Oh shutup ccll, yes it is.

So I'm done relentlessly pushing for it. I guess there is more important features of the mod and I heard someone say textures can be altered even if city layouts can't be made which will be pretty cool in itself.



Im still gonna visit their forums though.

If your going to tell me to shut up I'd at least hope you have the intelligents to do it with the traditional two words. Its "shut up" not "shutup". And your statement of "yes it is" is completly random. Yes what is? You also seem to think your funny, somehow

And please don't come to the Offcial TW forum. We seem to be getting an influx of stubborn idiots lately, we don't need anymore