why o why cant we play the mongols?

[Orgath]

the mongols are this reoccuring faction in MTW and M2TW but you can never play them except in custom battles.

in MTW i was playing the byzantines and it was the first time i had ever played a total war game so i had no idea the mongols were coming. i controlled pretty much the whole eastern part of the map so when the mongols attacked i lost almost my entire empire. however i did get lucky and in a huge battle of about 4000 vs 4000 i killed their kahn and their whole faction was elimated. then there were rebellions in all the reigons they took from me and i ended up with a huge army of all mongolian soldiers. that new army helped me take over all of europe.

so ya the mongolians kick ass and if they would give us a mongolian campaign that would be even more kick ass!!!!

[Antissa]

Well first of all, I think the reason the Mongols are unplayable in M2TW is because the developers thought it would be better if they initially appeared as a huge horde (several full stack armies) and go on a rampage until they decide to settle.

If they were given control by the human player, then it's highly possible they would finish the game in a few turns, because they have such an enomorous army under their control. That wouldn't be any fun at all, so the developers wants the game to be a challenge

Anyways, you can edit a few txt. files to make the Mongols playable, and there are also few M2TW mods that allows you to play them as well.

[Orgath]

well if the developers changed the rules for the mongolians so they start later when the mongol empire was losing power. the result would be a campaign where the player would be trying to bring back a dying empire from the brink. it would be sort of like the byzantine campaign but with mongols. i think this would be an idea that would work well in a campaign. (hint hint Creative Assembly) the mongols could even get their missions from the other parts of mongol empire that lie outside the grand campaign zone.

ya i think that would work

[RollingWave]

stainless steel has playable Mongols, it's pretty tough, you start with a strong big ass army but no money at all, it's going to take awhile for them to get any sort of money going, so you need to make sure you win almost all your battles big time early on.

[Double A]

I know you can play as the Huns in RTW BI

[Georgy Zhukov]

A lot of Mods add the Mongols as a playable faction.

[The Noble Lord]

the mongols are this reoccuring faction in MTW and M2TW but you can never play them except in custom battles.

in MTW i was playing the byzantines and it was the first time i had ever played a total war game so i had no idea the mongols were coming. i controlled pretty much the whole eastern part of the map so when the mongols attacked i lost almost my entire empire. however i did get lucky and in a huge battle of about 4000 vs 4000 i killed their kahn and their whole faction was elimated. then there were rebellions in all the reigons they took from me and i ended up with a huge army of all mongolian soldiers. that new army helped me take over all of europe.

so ya the mongolians kick ass and if they would give us a mongolian campaign that would be even more kick ass!!!!

Hi,


Try SS 6.1 mod and you will play the Mongols. Very hard though, at the start
you have no money and too many enemies.
But then again, Mongol horde doesn't the money because they will
pillage and take whatever they want from their unfortunate enemies.


CHEERS

[RollingWave]

to be more precise, they start out with a lot of money but only a large town, so if you don't go on a rampage quickly you'll soon go deep into the red

[homefry]

Are there any mods that let you play as the Mongols (in the same fashion as they appear in the vanilla game)

That is, I want to start the game with 9 full stacks ready to do some damage.

[Leutrim]

Are there any mods that let you play as the Mongols (in the same fashion as they appear in the vanilla game)

That is, I want to start the game with 9 full stacks ready to do some damage.

[eggthief]

SS 6.1 does, I think they would actually be more fun in DLV though.

[Prince Rodrigo]

It would be to easy having nine frickin' stacks blitz through the Middle East conquering it in just ten turns.

[PeteSKTemplar]

Ive just annexed Khwarezm empire playing as Mongols SS6.1 plus submods. It was great exp. to use cavalry armies only. For me sieges were the toughest battles for on the open field Mongols rule. I recommende this mod for you too.

[Steel of Fury]

Yes, not being able to play the Mongols is one of the big disappointments of the game. I love playing them in custom battles.

[homefry]

Even more disappointing is that you can't play them in the Kingdoms expansion (out of the box).

[roy34543]

Heres how you can do it. Get hotseat unmodified on normal M2TW (retrofit mod does this i believe) and then take any faction and do whatever you want.

Then when the mongols appear do on the console control mongols (Or whatever their name is if its Mongol Horde or something) and then do Control (faction your playing to disable it) have fun!

[clandestino]

You could play with Russians instead, their units have similar stats as Mongolian and similar gamestyle.

[eggthief]

You could play with Russians instead, their units have similar stats as Mongolian and similar gamestyle.

well their heavy cavalry will ruin your economy and cant be recruited as quickly as the mongol ones.

[clandestino]

Druzhina can be recruited from second level castle and it has same, if not better, stats as Mongolian Heavy lancers.

[eggthief]

lol druzhinas are nothing compared to the mongol cavalry, u need tsars guard´s to be even.