UNIT ROSTER

[glouch]

hey just a quick question, does this mod have a unique unit roster?

i've been looking at mods in the forum like SS and Broken C, and while the ideas about the factions sound awesome, in terms of units i find them disappointing, mainly because the units that they used were none other than the same vanilla units.

i've very very excited with this supermod because it is already being described as the EB of M2TW even at this early stage, and i just wanted to know if it aims to also at least alter the looks and stats, as well as the sometimes obviously over-simplified and over-generalized names of the units. if this isn't the case then i'm suggesting that this be done, to add to the 'atmosphere' of the whole thing. i'm very concerned with this because i think a huge part of the reason why EB became such a much-loved and followed mod is because of the sheer depth and detail(in terms of unit descriptions and research) of its unit roster.

that's all, and good luck to you guys.

[Douchebag]

I dont think BC has any vanilla units...did you even play BC?

[Theseus1234]

BC includes factions that had nothing in common vanilla units...at all...EVER

[AnthoniusII]

The monastic orders roster will be a unique one the way this mod will present them and that will be only the begining!

[jonathanstill]

it would be cool to see more original units

[Basil 11]

Will all the units be non-vanilla??

[Hengest]

Will all the units be non-vanilla??

Hopefully. But we have found skinning a real pain unlike BC we have no superskinners... What we plan to do is to use placeholders from other mods and re-arrange some vanilla units with new stats and names in the mod so that we can get a Beta out quicker. It's not perfect but it is the best we can do, we are not going to use units but you may have seen them before. The overall effect will be to have a new gameplay.
Some units that we cannot just replace we are making from scratch such as the Monastic Orders, some of which have never been seen in the modding community before, we are going well beyond Kingdoms. There are some unsual and perhaps impossible units that we want to make too, such as Mongolian Dragon Rockets, Eastern European War Wagons, Siege screens, and Byzantine giant repeating ballista. All of which are worth the work and WILL make an impact on the commnity, whereas more English Billmen re-skinned probably won't matter to most.

[Giorgios]

Will you be using the complete Byzantine Unit Roster? It looks incredible! I think I've already read that you are, but this would seem the best place to ask...

[AnthoniusII]

Will you be using the complete Byzantine Unit Roster? It looks incredible! I think I've already read that you are, but this would seem the best place to ask...

Thank you for your kind words!!!
My friend I am one of the 1st members of THIS mod!
All the expirience in THIS mod is mirrored on CBUR project!!!

[Basileos]

Hopefully. But we have found skinning a real pain unlike BC we have no superskinners... What we plan to do is to use placeholders from other mods and re-arrange some vanilla units with new stats and names in the mod so that we can get a Beta out quicker. It's not perfect but it is the best we can do, we are not going to use units but you may have seen them before. The overall effect will be to have a new gameplay.
Some units that we cannot just replace we are making from scratch such as the Monastic Orders, some of which have never been seen in the modding community before, we are going well beyond Kingdoms. There are some unsual and perhaps impossible units that we want to make too, such as Mongolian Dragon Rockets, Eastern European War Wagons, Siege screens, and Byzantine giant repeating ballista. All of which are worth the work and WILL make an impact on the commnity, whereas more English Billmen re-skinned probably won't matter to most.

Is there a way to attract good skinners actually?because WE units won't be that difficult to skin,but the islamic factions will...

[Theodotos I]

There are some unsual and perhaps impossible units that we want to make too, such as Mongolian Dragon Rockets, Eastern European War Wagons, Siege screens, and Byzantine giant repeating ballista. All of which are worth the work and WILL make an impact on the commnity, whereas more English Billmen re-skinned probably won't matter to most.

We're not talking fantasy units here? Please tell me not.

[Copperknickers II]

We're not talking fantasy units here? Please tell me not.

I can show you approximately eight verified sources for each of those, if you don't think they are real.

[Monthy]

Hopefully. But we have found skinning a real pain unlike BC we have no superskinners... What we plan to do is to use placeholders from other mods and re-arrange some vanilla units with new stats and names in the mod so that we can get a Beta out quicker. It's not perfect but it is the best we can do, we are not going to use units but you may have seen them before. The overall effect will be to have a new gameplay.
Some units that we cannot just replace we are making from scratch such as the Monastic Orders, some of which have never been seen in the modding community before, we are going well beyond Kingdoms. There are some unsual and perhaps impossible units that we want to make too, such as Mongolian Dragon Rockets, Eastern European War Wagons, Siege screens, and Byzantine giant repeating ballista. All of which are worth the work and WILL make an impact on the commnity, whereas more English Billmen re-skinned probably won't matter to most.

I suggest to check SS 6.1 models. This is great skinnig work a specialy the part of pagan Lithuanian roster. SS 6.1 is one of the best mod I ever play. The second one is DLV - this one have nice kings skins in bodyguard unit during the battle.

You could also take best skins from another mods. See this:
http://totalwar.honga.net/faction_un...s6&f=lithuania

Did You consider to make new building models in the city menu? Vanilia style is awful.

[Magas of Cyrene]

That'd be great.

Take all the time you need!

[Hengest]

But not any more though...

[AnthoniusII]

But not any more though...

A number of mods honored me by making me a member of their mod teams too...
That is why i have to change sig from time to time as a minor acceptance of that honor!

[Hengest]

Nice!

[jonny duck]

in response to the original post, i like quite a lot of the vanilla units, but it would be nice to see some of them re-skinned, but can someone add an anti-cavalry unit to england such as something that can form a spearwall like billen. I am sure in history that they were very long weapons and formed a spear wall, (i'm referring to during the civil war but I assume they existed beforehand).

Scotland as well needs a re-vamp. I love playing as them but their units are terrible. With the exception of the highland nobles and some of the later armour noble units they are bad. Perhaps add a nice shock unit armed with hand axes that are fast running. Like a medium damaging milita unit. Also gunpowder. A re-skinned version of irleands caliver units would be good. During the jacobite rebellions they had muskets so it shouldnt seem too out of the ordinary if they could have a basic gun unit.
Archers for scotland, perhaps the invention of a huntsmen type unit. One that is good at ambushes, perhaps armed with basic longbows to recognise that rather than a typical standing army scotland had access to some very skilled locals.

Also, unless it is intended that wales be a seperate faction, england should be able to recuit some welsh units in wales, to add variety to the units.

[AnthoniusII]

This mod has some of the best english/scotish researchers in the forum!
Wait no less than perfect work!

[jonny duck]

Is it possible to speed up battle animation during battles? At the moment I find that the soldiers, although the animation in itself is good, that it is a little slow (not due to lag). The battles do show the epic scale of war but I find at times that it is lacking in "franticness" or ferocity. I think this problem mainly applies to spearmen, two handed weapons usually axes and to the sword and shield men.