Is this unit from BC ?

**cossacks368** · June 15, 2008, 02:36 AM

The axe looking very BC style~

I get the screenshots from Mod :Bellum Crucis

**~~Miraj~~** · June 15, 2008, 02:37 AM

The axes look like AD's work. The unit itself seems like pretty conventional conversion of M2TW stuff.

**Giovi** · June 15, 2008, 04:31 AM

omg it is a unit form the upcoming version of bellum crucis .... it isn't AD 's work....... if there are other awesome units theese cannot only be bc units

**Lupu** · June 15, 2008, 05:02 AM

That are the axes of AD's mamluks.

**sud commander** · June 15, 2008, 05:20 AM

Broken Crescent axes (fantastic work) + Normal Medieval 2 unit =

Broken Crescent axes (fantastic work) + Broken Crescent unit =

**Douchebag** · June 15, 2008, 11:21 AM

axes look awesome, but the unit looks horrible.

**Zymran** · June 15, 2008, 11:24 AM

It aint broken crescent, so we aint interested :wink: - lol

**teh.frickin.pope** · June 15, 2008, 01:08 PM

I think the issue is whether they asked AD's permission or not, as if not that would be quite douchebagish. Whups, there I go, stirring

again.

**Ahiga** · June 15, 2008, 01:17 PM

The Axes are AD's & some of the helmet's are.

It frustrates me to see the amount of plagiarism that is evident in Medieval Total War II modding. I never saw this nearly as proliferated as back in Rome, and it's sad to see it evident without even crediting original permission. What's worse is that this Italian mod HAS done great stuff on their own, so I really cannot see why they felt the need to take someone else's material.

Nothing we can do either way, and in the end it doesn't matter but it's disappointing to see.

**Otsman** · June 15, 2008, 01:17 PM

those helmets look about twice the size they should be

**Douchebag** · June 15, 2008, 01:41 PM

someone should post in their forums and ask if they had AD's permission to use his axe/helmets.

http://freeforumzone.leonardo.it/car...682&idc=458888

**Garbarsardar** · June 15, 2008, 02:02 PM

If it is indeed AD's work, I will contact an administrator there.

**Deep_Red** · June 15, 2008, 03:51 PM

I hope you will, Garbarsardar...
This is so... pathetic

**renjard** · June 15, 2008, 04:53 PM

greetings to all member of TWC i am a member of the italian mod bellum crucis i'm not a skilled skinner like AD but that unit is only my work, the axes looks like the one used in BC becouse the image are the result of google image search of the word "mamluk axe" and i found them on this site http://mbx.streetofeyes.com/index.ph...6;sa=showPosts
the models use less poligon than the one of BC and i didn't do a part of the axe (the rear) that is present in the axe of BC.
http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?i...vyaxemebs0.jpg

i'm sorry for the trouble i make i don't want to damage or copy no one...

**Taneda Santôka** · June 15, 2008, 05:38 PM

Seemed obvious, there can't be a thousand references for those weapons. (especaily wih those osprey-frenzies around here!

)

**~~Miraj~~** · June 15, 2008, 07:00 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't raise a big fuss about the weapons honestly since those are publically available images that were made into flat blades textures using alpha-channels.

**Ahiga** · June 15, 2008, 07:53 PM

Sorry about that renjard. We've just seen cases of it's use here, so it's made for perhaps an extreme amount of vigilance.

In hindsight, given the mod you've been working on has been producing stellar stuff (And if memory serves, I think you guys along with BC and Deus Lo Volt had material stolen by a mini mod on TWC) it was really unlikely that anything would have been taken. I hope we or I did not show any disrespect by our behavior.

Well wishes to you and your fellow modders.