Definition of "professional army"

[Theseus1234]

hey guys
as the title states, i have been wondering what a "professional army" really means

i originally guessed that it mean the faction didnt have any good heavy infantry, but then i saw the HRE with it too. so then i thought it must mean militias of sorts, but the HRE int he late period has good non-militia troops, as does portgual

do you guys know?

[Dewy]

Easy question to answer. What does professional mean? it means good at what they do. so professional army means an army that is best at what they do.

example: A professional army these days would be the Royal Australian Army. US wouldn't be class they just have alot of men to throw at the enemy and really couldn't fight well with small numbers like the Australian Army. No offense to americans here but its a fact the US army is a shadow of its glory. Now a professional air force would be the US air force. A professional Navy would be UK.

Do you get what i mean?

[Douchebag]

Easy question to answer. What does professional mean? it means good at what they do. so professional army means an army that is best at what they do.

example: A professional army these days would be the Royal Australian Army. US wouldn't be class they just have alot of men to throw at the enemy and really couldn't fight well with small numbers like the Australian Army. No offense to americans here but its a fact the US army is a shadow of its glory. Now a professional air force would be the US air force. A professional Navy would be UK.

Do you get what i mean?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Wow that just made my day.

[molonthegreat]

Easy question to answer. What does professional mean? it means good at what they do. so professional army means an army that is best at what they do.

example: A professional army these days would be the Royal Australian Army. US wouldn't be class they just have alot of men to throw at the enemy and really couldn't fight well with small numbers like the Australian Army. No offense to americans here but its a fact the US army is a shadow of its glory. Now a professional air force would be the US air force. A professional Navy would be UK.

Do you get what i mean?

The U.S army is the best army at the world because they are well trained and all their soldiers are professionals they are the most technologically advanced they don't throw men on the enemy and the U.S Navy is also the biggest and most technologically advanced navy in the world.

[Chim]

The answer has been given, this thread can be closed now.

[Theseus1234]

so are you saying that professional is the discipline of the troops?

[Dewy]

Yes and well trained

[homefry]

Professional army means military academy.

In this game, only huge cities are able to build professional armies from the military academy line of buildings.

The US version of pro army would be those men from the military academies (West Point, Naval Academy, etc.)...

And Dewy, you crack me up. HAHA... the Australian Army is professional because they have Royal in front of the name.

[Dewy]

Professional army means military academy.

In this game, only huge cities are able to build professional armies from the military academy line of buildings.

The US version of pro army would be those men from the military academies (West Point, Naval Academy, etc.)...

And Dewy, you crack me up. HAHA... the Australian Army is professional because they have Royal in front of the name.

No it ha royal infront of the name becuase of the Queen of england dumb .

just because our Army chooses to fight many losing and impossible to win wars (Vietnam and Iraq) doesn't mean we aren't professional. besides, from the people I've met in the army they would probably snap someone's neck for saying they're not professional

Vietnem lol don't get me started on that. When they went of patrols they played music(nice cover) The VC started away from Australia after the battle of long tan

Just look that up outnumbered 2500(VC) to 100(Australians)

Lol i would like to see a person in the US army(lets go rangers) try and brake the neck of a SAS classed as the same but everyone nows SAS is better both UK and Australia. Not trying to offened americas here but its the fact.

[roy34543]

It means i beleive armies that are top-of-the-line in all respects, Perhaps not the elite of the elite, but definatly the high up somewhere of elite.
England fullfills this, Those armoured swordsman , English Knights,Mortar, and of course, Sherwood archers and retinue archers
France does, They have pikemen(One of the best infantry in the game if used correctly)Scottish guard/adventuriers / Lancers
They basically more or less can be said to "excel" everywhere and be able to counter anything. While The HRE for example doesnt fullfill this due to its mediocre late game infantry(yeah theyre ok, But not extremely good or mainline troops) and archers.
Its basically a way of labeling a faction "tougher"(that is, Not having proffesional armies)

[Vor]

I was under the impression a Professional Army was one that was fulltime. I.E not a Militia that was made up of civilians who would be called up when the enemy arrived, and for the rest of the time do normal civilian work, but rather a force of full-time soldiers.

[Chim]

A professional army is an army that has a full time job at the army. It has little to do with quality.

In the medieval ages armies consisted of levies, AKA farmers and normal townsmen called to arms.

[Rex Invictus]

Yes. Also called Standing Army.

[zeuxis the mighty]

I believe in MTW2 this may mean the amount of knight units the faction has. Portugal has many great units but in terms of knights they have little variety (mostly feudals and the Portuguese knights). the HRE im not so sure about though, they have many knights.

[zeuxis the mighty]

example: A professional army these days would be the Royal Australian Army. US wouldn't be class they just have alot of men to throw at the enemy and really couldn't fight well with small numbers like the Australian Army. No offense to americans here but its a fact the US army is a shadow of its glory. Now a professional air force would be the US air force. A professional Navy would be UK.

just because our Army chooses to fight many losing and impossible to win wars (Vietnam and Iraq) doesn't mean we aren't professional. besides, from the people I've met in the army they would probably snap someone's neck for saying they're not professional

[dr_guerra]

Professional army means non militia, non peasant. So armies that are there for the long run, to go out and campaign with. Especially stuff like Tercio pikemen and musketeers. As professional as it gets.

[Markas]

Professional=profession. They do it for a living, not militia with obligations at a time of year and are members of another 'profession' e.g not a military one.

[Poach]

Any legal standing army is a professional army. You get plenty of full-time, trained soldiers (eg. Hezbollah) that are referred to as paramilitary, as they are not the sanctioned armed force of their nation (they're not in the Lebanese army).

[Theseus1234]

hooo boyy didn't expect so many replies
thanks for the answers, guys!

[masterbaker]

hey guys
as the title states, i have been wondering what a "professional army" really means

i originally guessed that it mean the faction didnt have any good heavy infantry, but then i saw the HRE with it too. so then i thought it must mean militias of sorts, but the HRE int he late period has good non-militia troops, as does portgual

do you guys know?

Professional troops in M2 are those like retinue longbowmen and gendarmes, who are full time as soldiers. The Portuguese may have good units, but Aventuros are nobles, not professional soldiers, and Conquistadors are treasure hunters.

I don't think knights are counted as professionals, they are well trained soldiers but they have duties at home - taking care of farms and the serfs beneath them. Professional soldiers are permanently part of a military unit, so they are always ready to fight, unlike knights, peasants and nobles who must be called to arms and grouped into a proper fighting force.