Top Five Worst Factions?

[The Good]

What are the top five worst factions, in your opinion?

Some of you may mention Ragusa, by the way, but that actually is one my favourites.

[Norge]

Pretty much any 1 province nation, along with Norway who starts with 3 colonies to maintain and no income. Hopefully it will be fixed in a patch.

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

Ragusa

[ccllnply]

The one thats vassal of the Ming from the start, can't think of the name. And pretty much all of the Italian states. Maybe its just me but I find them really boring

[Carach]

The one thats vassal of the Ming from the start, can't think of the name. And pretty much all of the Italian states. Maybe its just me but I find them really boring

Sulu?

the one province islands of the far east are the worst factions. Practically no hope of expansion at all - at least in europe u can defeat other one province nations neighbouring u

[The Good]

Sulu?

the one province islands of the far east are the worst factions. Practically no hope of expansion at all - at least in europe u can defeat other one province nations neighbouring u

Well, as Makassar, I've been able to colonise all of Indonesia, and I had a very stable economy too.

[ccllnply]

Sulu?

the one province islands of the far east are the worst factions. Practically no hope of expansion at all - at least in europe u can defeat other one province nations neighbouring u

No, Ryukyu.

And I think the one provinces island in Eastern Asia are pretty fun. Especially Bali. Actually over on the Paradox forum one lad destroyed the Ming with Bali

[Kennylz]

I just tried playing as Serbia and I was conquered by the Ottoman Empire within 5 seconds. Pretty funny, since it is pretty much a null faction due to it not even being there at later dates and you can't keep from being soaked up.

[tco]

what no
Maldives

[Darkarbiter]

Italy? no way! Probably Ryukyu.

[4th Regiment]

I just tried playing as Serbia and I was conquered by the Ottoman Empire within 5 seconds. Pretty funny, since it is pretty much a null faction due to it not even being there at later dates and you can't keep from being soaked up.

Being a Serb I have noticed this inaccuracy – in the begging Serbia is in a war against Ottomans and it got conquered immediately. Of course Serbia neither Hungary was in the war against Turks in starting day of the game. Turks ivaded two years later in 1455 and conquered only southern part of the country in that war.
I have modded that and some other inaccuracies in the Balkans by myself as well as war exhaustion system in the game – it was very odd, now ur country will got exhausted only if ur are really fighting the war, more if u provinces being looted or under siege, much more if u put war taxes at ur population. I can email u my mod if u like(there is no need to change whole game, just several files u can copy/paste)
Besides that, changes in Balkans I made, due to inaccuracies are

-Serbia and Hungary are not in the war against Ottomans

-Zeta is part of the Serbia

-Since Macedonia in EU3 is divided in Salonica and Macedonia provinces (it was one in EU2), northern part –Macedonia, must have Serbian, Slavic culture

-In EU3 Serbia is only one province ,while for example smaller countries have several , Bosnia 2, Croatia 5!!!, no to mention German states or Scotland for example etc etc. So in order no to mess things too much with my modding I just increased population, income and trade goods significantly in that one province to simulate the size and wealth of the country. Since Serbia was producing more than 1/3 of silver in Europe and was great land for wine production I have changed major trade good to wine (since there is not silver in the game) but some modders have changed to iron

-Herzegovina was for almost 40 years independent form Bosnia in year 1453, but creating new country will be mess and lot of work so it remains the same

[NaptownKnight]

Mongol Khanate?

How about Granada, has anyone managed to win with them?

[Norge]

Mongol Khanate?

How about Grenada, has anyone managed to win with them?

Grenada is a Caribbean island north of Venezuela, you're probably talking about Granada.

[NaptownKnight]

Yeah, thats the one. Fixed it.

[RZZZA]

ryukyu is awesome, because thats where Mugen came from in the series Samurai Champloo

[The Good]

ryukyu is awesome, because thats where Mugen came from in the series Samurai Champloo

Yeah, thats the redeeming quality of Ryukyu. I watched that show before, Mugen was... for the lack of a better word... badass in the same way Spike was in Cowboy Bebop (both shows had same creator).

[LSJ]

I can't say which is worst, but I hate playing as

Granada (Spain, Aragon, Portugal invade every ten seconds)
Swahili (I outnumber the Portuguese menace five to one but they own me every other battle and occupy every province)
Papal States (everyone is out to get me... every Catholic nation hates me... Sicily invades constantly)
Salzburg (wtf am I supposed to do not including being annexed by Austria after I fight one war?)
Norway (have no money, can't do , get invaded and pwned every time I fight one war, and only Irish royalty want to marry into my family)

[mongoose]

Luxumberg: one province, few resources, and Germany is going to kick your ass at some point.

[yxc qwert!]

Luxumberg: one province, few resources, and Germany is going to kick your ass at some point.

Albania, Tannu Tuva anyone?

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

I'm gonna start a game as Transylvania next, hope I don't get pwned. Otherwise they might show up on this list next...