Bribery

[bingster088]

If i want to bribe away an enemy general whos attacking my fort... what do i do??? (stupid question... i know)

[htismaqe]

If i want to bribe away an enemy general whos attacking my fort... what do i do??? (stupid question... i know)

Talk to him with a diplomat and make sure you have a good amount of money...

[Benz282]

I believe you will need around 30k denarii if you want to bribe away a full stack, might depend on what difficulty you're playing. If you don't have that much, chances are they will just decline.

You can also bribe settlements, in case you didnt know.

[Xavier Dragnesi]

I think the way it works is like this:

- You can have as little money as you want but still bribe
- You can only bribe family members who are not directly related (ie. they came into the family via MotH or adoption)

[Selifator]

As far as I know, bribery can be done only on land armies of enemy factions or rebels.
The money needed is calculated by the value of the troops, and perhaps other factors as well. Named generals add a large amount of money to the bribe.
I think you can bribe all generals except the faction leader and the faction heir.

[Xavier Dragnesi]

Oh right, maybe that's it. I've never been a big briber unless my money skyrockets and I have to get rid of some of it to stop my own general getting corrupt.

[bingster088]

Thanks

[atraps]

sorry, the information that i was gonna post wasnt true

[REDrake]

The only problem is that once you bribe a general, while he's added to your family, he's also corrupt. Also is a lot cheaper to bribe a rebel general than one from another faction.

[Xavier Dragnesi]

Yes, corruption after bribing is a side effect. That's why I usually don't bribe armies with generals. I don't know of the comparative prices between generals, but I'm quite sure it depends more on the quality and number of the men than on the general himself. Typically, rebel generals have average troops and not many soldiers (you don't usually see rebel full stacks!) so they are usualyl cheaper.

[Benz282]

Ah, but you can't forget those traits that increase the cost to bribe. A few 200% multipliers will really jack up the price (and I believe there are traits that increase the prices by at least 400% :hmmm

[htismaqe]

I generally don't bribe armies with generals due to reasons pointed out by other people.

I do however bribe rebel armies without generals whenever I can. They're almost always made up of 75% peasants and represent a quick way to populate cities that are low on population...

[Angrychris]

ya a generals bribe trait can kill your chances somtimes, but i never noticed any bribe traits that would increase ur chances of success or decrease an amount. rebels will almost always except a bribe if u have the right amount of $. to bribe an army to break up or join ur army is recommended if u got the doe but i wouldnt recommend bribing towns. they will often revolt and break away regaurdless.

[Benz282]

Just a few notes on Bribing.

1 - If you bribe an enemy army, they will usually disband. HOWEVER, if there are units in the army that your faction can use , then they will join your faction (such as, while playing as the Scipii, I bribe a Julii stack; all their troops can be used by my faction, so they all join me). Generals/Family Members always join your faction when you bribe them.
2 - Enemy generals that you bribe will be corrupt, so your best choice would be sending them off on military campaigning. Or killing them outright .
3 - Bribing cities is a quick and easy way to conquer a settlement. The only downside is that, unless you can use the troops stationed inside PRIOR to your bribe, the city will be empty (and thus, likely to rebel).
4 - The more money you have, the more likely it is your bribe will be accepted. (They wont ask for all your money though)

[The Rights 2]

correct they useally, but... i was playing the Brutii and was loaded earning at least 20,000 a turn. i had 100,000 in the bank and i was fighting the Black Plague. i dicided to bribe them away, so i bribe everyone execpt a single full stack. guess how much they asked for 200,000... 200G... ALOT OF MONEY. it turns out that the general had that 400% cost to bribe trait.

[Benz282]

Ouch man.

I once bribed all of Anatolia away from the Egyptians. Imagine how much that cost

[Gaius Gersius Maxentius]

The Bribe costs depends on many thinks:
1. The level of traits of the general
2. The size of the army which is going to disappear
3. The faction of the general
4. The relation between the player's and the general's faction (allies, neutral,
at war)
5. The situation of the faction the general is a member (if the faction has
many members and no problems the costs are lower than other way)

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Bribing cost depends on your treasury/financial. Its considerably cheaper to bribe in early game.
Other factors such the experience of the units, diplomat influence, generals traits/ancillaries play a minor role.

[Ludens]

Also, you cannot re-bribe someone who has defected from your side before. This was included to prevent bugs with the family tree.