Presidential General Election Thread, current

[pannonian]

Previous thread ended here.

The last thread ended with a rush of flames and trolls. I'm starting this new thead for discussion of the election, but there shall be civilised debate here. Yea, else the skies shall open up, and the heavy hand of the moderators shall make itself known, and thou shalt know fear and horror!

I declare this thread open.

Edit: Some links that may be useful:

I was looking through sites to find the candidates views (I thought I my choose one to support) and I came across these sites
http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm
http://www.issues2000.org/default.htm

It covers a wide range of stances and uses quotes said from them. it provides the quotes, the year they said it and provides their opinions on up to 24 issues.

It is also available for third party candidates and other Republicans and Democrats. It also provides you with a backgroun on the selected issue i.e. War in Iraq.

I believe it could be a good, imformative link for the Mudpit and help influence members to support a candidate by simply looking at their stances on a variety of topics

[H_man]

Poll?

[Emperor Taizu]

Here's a BIG question for all of you. Ready?


Why do you hate Hillary Clinton?


Please start discussing. I got this question from all the hatred of Sen. Clinton in this forum.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Ive grown to respect her. Really. I think shes been ripped off by the media. Im glad she isnt running though.

[Emperor Taizu]

Im glad she isnt running though.

Why? I would, personally, think that she would be a great president.

[Twfan55]

Here's a BIG question for all of you. Ready?


Why do you hate Hillary Clinton?


Please start discussing. I got this question from all the hatred of Sen. Clinton in this forum.

Where do I begin.....

1. She is a socialist, I am extremely anti socialist
2. CFR Member
3. She has no plans to stop the hyperinflation of the dollar
4. She is pro-amnesty
5. I hate the sound of her voice
6. She tries to convince people how although she voted for the war, she really didnt
7. Takes boatloads of money from oil lobbyists she vows to fight against
8. I doubt on her commitment to 2nd Amendment rights
9. Wants to repeal Bush tax cuts
10. Not in favor of abolishing the IRS/ Finding a replacement
11. Too much rederick
12. Husband of Bill Clinton
13. Did I mention her whiny voice?
14. Pants Suit
15. The crying thing in the restraunt. I think that was so fake.

[Emperor Taizu]

Where do I begin.....

1. She is a socialist, I am extremely anti socialist
2. CFR Member
3. She has no plans to stop the hyperinflation of the dollar
4. She is pro-amnesty
5. I hate the sound of her voice
6. She tries to convince people how although she voted for the war, she really didnt
7. Takes boatloads of money from oil lobbyists she vows to fight against
8. I doubt on her commitment to 2nd Amendment rights
9. Wants to repeal Bush tax cuts
10. Not in favor of abolishing the IRS/ Finding a replacement
11. Too much rederick
12. Husband of Bill Clinton
13. Did I mention her whiny voice?
14. Pants Suit
15. The crying thing in the restraunt. I think that was so fake.

First, go to her website and look over the "Issues" section.

http://hillaryclinton.com/home/?splash=1&sc=2446

[HorseArcher]

First, go to her website and look over the "Issues" section.

http://hillaryclinton.com/home/?splash=1&sc=2446

You know her problems isn't coming from too far...actually lot's of people sorta didn't mind her a few years ago and as I said before, she would be still liked more if she wouldn't have opened her mouth, just waved around and let the talk to somewhat else, but not to Billy boy Clinton.

[Shaun]

Please start discussing. I got this question from all the hatred of Sen. Clinton in this forum.

Because she is unsuitable to become president. She cried when she came third in the Iowa Caucus. She uses tears to appeal to emotions and acts as if she is one little girl in a world of big bad boys. How the hell are other nations going to respect a woman who cries as a leader?

[Rush Limbaugh]

Nobody is more thin skinned than Obama . He is always crying about this or that

[RZZZA]

Nobody is more thin skinned than Obama . He is always crying about this or that

lol, what primary have you been watching?


Obama is the coolest cat I've seen in a long while, his poker face rarely cracks.


crying? where do you pull this crap out of?

oh wait, i know.

With Obama we started out, we couldn't talk about his big ears 'cause that made him nervous. We've gone from that to this: Not only can we not mention his ears...

We can't talk about his mother.

We can't talk about his father.

We can't talk about his grandmother unless he does, brings her up as a "typical white person."

We can't talk about his wife, can't talk about his preacher, can't talk about his terrorist friends, can't talk about his voting record, can't talk about his religion.

We can't talk about appeasement.

We can't talk about color; we can't talk about lack of color.

We can't talk about race. We can't talk about bombers and mobsters who are his friends. We can't talk about schooling. We can't talk about his name, "Hussein."

We can't talk about his lack of experience. Can't talk about his income. Can't talk about his flag pin.

This started out we can't call him a liberal.

It started out we just couldn't talk about his ears.

Now we can't say anything about him.

you pull your crap out of the same place this guy pulled this out of

[Confederate Jeb]

Ive grown to respect her. Really. I think shes been ripped off by the media. Im glad she isnt running though.

Same for me. The media will now chose John McCain to be ripped off, if he hasn't been already.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Republicans Use Democrats to Attack Obama

More to come

[Joker85]

Republicans Use Democrats to Attack Obama

More to come

[H_man]

Well, not "scare" per se, but that is the terminology they utilize when referring to an Obama administration.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Theres not enough money to do all the crap he promises. We will all go broke.

[H_man]

Theres not enough money to do all the crap he promises. We will all go broke.

He won't do all the things he promises, I can assure you. He believes in "pay as you go" spending, even if that seems impossible.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Exactly he promises the impossible. An emty suit. They write the speeches for him and hes a great speaker but ut all ends there. I cant see how the hell he got a security clearnece with friends like that.

[H_man]

Exactly he promises the impossible. An emty suit. They write the speeches for him and hes a great speaker but ut all ends there. I cant see how the hell he got a security clearnece with friends like that.

So it's impossible to pay for a democraic gov't only when the money is available?

[JP226]

No nation borrowed money into prosperity either, nor did any nation sit on its ass about problems and just hope they will be solved.

Are you talking about borrowing in the face of investment or debt? I mean could you possibly imagine a company taking on a loan to expand their production process? I mean it is possible to borrow your self into exponential growth right?