Revised poll to include missed empires and exclude ancient.
Achameid Persian
Parthian
Sassanid Persian
Athenian
Alexandarian
Antigonid
Ptolemaic
Selecuid
Indo-Greek
Maurayan Indian
Gupta Indian
Qin Chinese
Han Chinese
Carthaginian
Roman
Indo-Scythian
Hun
Other (Please state which)
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Greatest Classical Empire V2
Revised poll to include missed empires and exclude ancient.
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Cool.Originally Posted by Farnan
Although it will make no difference. Rome will prevail.
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Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
ROMA
Breatannach Romanus
Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
Athens ofcourse.
We are enjoying the mental products of Athenian "empire"
Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
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Protector Domesticus
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Other, Sparta ofcourse!
Citizen
Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
Surely it's a bit of a useless question. Rome easily.
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Breatannach Romanus
Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
Hmmm military and territorial no doubt, but concerning the civilization and arts Athens easily...
Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
Luís de Camões
Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
Well kind of. A lot of Roman intellectual scope is today strangely sidelined, what with their "size" and "military", while Athens has the intellect to give it all its fame. But it's a tossup, I think both are exceptionally extraordinary. I just don't think it's entirely accurate how people imply that Rome gave the empire its size, while the inside content was intellectually Greek (Athenian). That's emphatically not the case, and Romans achieved an intellectual parity with the Greeks.
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No matter what, Rome shall always prevail
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Well I think you missed a very important empire, The Sumerian one, beacuse even though they didn't have a large territory their Warfare, Science, Astronomy, etc.. contributions were enormous,( writting for example, or the 365 day calendar, or even the concept of an Empire).
So I would vote for them on honorary grounds.
Praeses
Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
I would say Alexandrian just because it's life was unfairly cut short. Had Alexander stayed in power I believe they would of been able to do more than the Romans did, in maintaining their eastern dominance and conquering the West.
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I'll still nitpick that empires in like India or China do not belong to the Classic era. For the sake of historical correctness.
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Saviors of the Japanese
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Actually they do. Han and Qin China are both considered the Classical Age of China, and the period from the Mauryan to the Gupta Empire the Classical Age of India and they all happened at the same time.I'll still nitpick that empires in like India or China do not belong to the Classic era
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—Sir William Francis Butler
Dux Limitis
Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
Qin China prolly.
Because
a) They were military wardogs yet didn't fight as much as other empires.
b) had good culture
c) were quite ahead of their time
d) Pretty much the largest empire in the world for most of their existance.
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Dux Limitis
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Han China, and it's not even close.
military might, population, economy, size, government system, cultural achievement, legacy for the Chinese civilization.
at least today, there are still 1 billon or more ppl call themselves HANs. Can't find any who call themselves Romans anymore.
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Dux Limitis
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Damnit, keep confusing the two. Forgot that Qin dynasty was Qin Shi Huangdi only. :p
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Dux Limitis
Re: Greatest Classical Empire V2
that was a great empire though, albeit short. It created a template for what China will be til today.
a unified China with a relatively homogeneous language, culture, and customs as well as a centralized ruling and patronage system.
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I am torn between Qin and Rome
Rome it is.
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