1848 Revolutions

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

I'd propose to create a mod that would focus on the 1848 revolutions and wars of independence in Europe. Here's a map:



As you can see on this map, the main area of the uprisings occured in Central Europe, especially against the Habsburg Empire.

So it's reasonable that we chop down the map a little and focus on the hot spots:



Here are some reliable articles on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1848_revolutions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolut...Italian_states

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolut..._German_states

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolut...Habsburg_areas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...lution_of_1848

In the most cases the revolutions demanded political freedom (republican government) and independence. In the case of Hungary this meant that even the Russian Empire felt the urge to intervene.



The FACTIONS of this mod would be:

The main powers:
- Austrian Empire (or Habsburg Empire)
- Russian Empire
- Ottoman Empire
- Prussia

Germanic states:
- Baden
- Hessen
- Hannover
- Bavaria
- Schleswig-Holstein
- and Denmark
- Switzerland (neutral)

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Hannover cavalrymen from 1848:

Italian factions:
- Kingdom of Lombardy-Venetia
- Roman Republic (from the Papal States)
- Kingdom of Piedmont
- Tuscany
- Venice

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Italian cavalrymen from 1848:

Eastern European factions:
- Poland
- Hungary
- Wallachia
- Croatia
- Serbia

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Hungarian hussars from 1848:

Aims of the campaigns:
- to suppress independence (in the case of the oppressing states)
- to gain independence (in the case of the revolting factions)
- create a realistic, balanced gameplay, so you can't conquer the whole map in 100 turns
- time span: 1848-1849, probably weekly turn

I think the ETW game engine would support this mod idea, because players can change the form of government of their empire from an absolute monarchy, constitutional monarchy, and republic.

If you feel, you can help by either joining, or positive criticism, don't hesitate to do it.

Good news, that this mod has its own team. If you speak Hungarian, you can check our own forum:
http://twonline.jatekok.hu/forum/index.php?showforum=24

TWC team:
[user]PowerWizard[/user] - research, organization
[user]danova[/user] - 2d skinner
[user]Mediteran[/user] - research

[Orko]

I suggest adding Galicia, which also rebelled, and an indipendent kingdom of Venice, which also existed during that timeand add Hannover. put down Moravia and Silesia since they have nothing to do with 1848 revolutions.
all the rebelling factions except Hungary should start with a small area around their capital because this was what happened in reality.
By the way this is a good idea for a mod.

[Hunnis]

do we really need Serbia and Bosnia in the game? I know that Croatia helpt the Habsburg agianst the Hungarians but the Croatian army was destroyd. But i do not know what Bosnia and Serbia did. Does any one know?

[Orko]

Bosnia didn't really fought, but Serbia was a realtively powerfull faction and is on the map and I think it should be presented in the mod.

[Taxandrius]

I don't see the the use of a mod simply based on the various revolutions in 1848. What extra features would it offer ? How would it be different from other mods like 1861-emergance of modern warfare ?
There were some revolutions in 1848 which had a serious impact on the world, but should it be possible to make a whole mod about these revolts ?

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Okay, thanks guys for the useful info.

Added Venice, Hannover, Galicia, cut out Moravia, Silesia, Bosnia.

Added some pics.

[Herkus]

Whats the point of making this kind of thread with meaningless factions list for a mod which will never happen?
If you think that some serious modder will take your idea and create a mod - then sorry, that kind of things just don't happen in game modding scene.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Robmel, you are very mistaken, this is exactly the place, where mod ideas can be proposed and will be realized.

And I said in the first post: "If you feel, you can help by either joining, or positive criticism, don't hesitate to do it.".

[Taxandrius]

Say, Powerwizard, you don't really react on critic, do you ? Maybe you should notice the positive aspects of the critic ?

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Nevermind.

[Orko]

So... if this mod is succesful, than can I borrow Hungary for a mod of my own and givew Serbia to you in return?

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

So... if this mod is succesful, than can I borrow Hungary for a mod of my own and givew Serbia to you in return?

Yes, of course.

[Hunnis]

If the mod can't be done, then they can put some of the featurs of this mod in to a other, massive rebilions in this parts of Europe, or even some emerging factions.

[prince Poniatowski]

yyy... it should be only Poland, not Galicia, Greater Poland etc.

[Orko]

yyy... it should be only Poland, not Galicia, Greater Poland etc.

But Galicia rebelled...

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

yyy... it should be only Poland, not Galicia, Greater Poland etc.

You're right, I corrected the mistake, now there's only Poland.

edit: I also took out "Bohemia", as the Prague revolution was suppressed pretty fast, and played no specifically important role. The Prague revolution will be represented by a tough rebel pop-up within the Habsburg territory. The same goes with Saxony and the Dresden revolution.

[Orko]

You're right, I corrected the mistake, now there's only Poland.

edit: I also took out "Bohemia", as the Prague revolution was suppressed pretty fast, and played no specifically important role. The Prague revolution will be represented by a tough rebel pop-up.

So the faction list is getting smaller and smalle. it is not good.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

So the faction list is getting smaller and smalle.

No need for mini-factions, we'll have to be realistic here. Besides, these factions didn't do much in terms of warfare, and this is a wargame.

[Berdiche Knyaz]

How come Russia isn't in? They had some Revolutions during the 1800s

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

How come Russia isn't in? They had some Revolutions during the 1800s

Russia is in, it is listed as a major power.