Warg presentation ?

[whitewolfmxc]

Now we are pretty sure wargs will be in the mod , the problem i have is how will they be presented ?

My thoughts are

A) they near as fast as horses so they should be around the same speed ,

B) but they should have less "armor" as horse has broader muscles so less hit points for wargs than horses

C) wargs should have less charge value than horses (cause of the above and wargs dont get armor on like swan knights)

D) Wargs riders should have a secondary attack (since most calvary units in game will have them) , but im not saying an orce with a lance on a warg , but what i have in mind is a "invisible" lance on the unit (the unit is mostly sword welding) so when they "charge" they get extra attack values so to present that wargs DO BITE XD

But then if the mod team can add new animations to their bites , it will be more awesome

E) warg riders unit should get "scare horse / infantry " trait (same fro other creatures of middle earth XD)

F) warg riders should be much cheaper in upkeep and price than most calvary units (well they should feed them from war prisoners and on the battlefield straight away anyway XD)





PS: i was wondering wouldn't be logical if orcs take large capitals like Minas Tirith , they would make good use of the armorer there ? then would wargs wore armor ? heavy warg rider ? XD

[Mithrandir]

Hehe, Heavy Warg Riders

Just one thing: the wargs should scare infantry as well. Imagine, 100 huge, bloodthirsty wargs are charging towards you. Wouldn't that scare the crap out of you?

[Glorfindel]

rohirim cavalry must also scare infantry (and other extra powerful cavalry like Dol Amrothian one), Dunendain Rangers too

[Kaas]

off topic:

rohirim cavalry must also scare infantry (and other extra powerful cavalry like Dol Amrothian one), Dunendain Rangers too

But they should increase your own morale. I think i would have increase morale when elite rohirrim cavalry is defending my rear.

[The Count(er)]

Hehe, Heavy Warg Riders

Just one thing: the wargs should scare infantry as well. Imagine, 100 huge, bloodthirsty wargs are charging towards you. Wouldn't that scare the crap out of you?

I fear nothing so long as I can stay safe at the top of that tree

[The Big Red 1]

Then in comes the troll. Life never stays that way for long.

[The Count(er)]

meh the eagles will save me I'm sure of it

[Glorfindel]

and your name is Gandy?

or maybe Bilbobobobobooooo?

[Kaas]

meh the eagles will save me I'm sure of it

:hmmm::hmmm:

You will be eaten by ... fellbeasts

[Mithrandir]

Don't forget trolls and mûmakil, those are really scary...

[whitewolfmxc]

But you guys overall agree on my thoughts on them right ?

PS: yes yes all "creatures" in LOTR should be scary to men on foot or on horse XD even ents XD

[Mithrandir]

Yeah, Treebeard is one scary dude (if you're an orc or uruk-hai).

[Blacknight_1990]

@ whitewolf

I agree with your ideas on wargs. But I don't think that heavily armoured wargs are possible.

[Mithrandir]

I think he was joking about that part

[Varjon]

I think it would increase moral even if you would have light haradrim cavalry defending your rear. So I think it should scare enemy, not increase morale of your troops.

[Glorfindel]

yeah, aragorn is scary with his titanic sword (=dunedain)

[bingster088]

yeah, aragorn is scary with his titanic sword (=dunedain)

agreed

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

I think all these bonuses are gonna get out of control...If having elite troops on your side raises morale, shouldn't the Orcs having a troll raise theirs? It would just be easier to give someone a trait like "commands the Rohirrim"
or "Troll-Keeper" that adds to the General's dread/chivalry.

[The Big Red 1]

yes.

[Iustinianos]

I think all these bonuses are gonna get out of control...If having elite troops on your side raises morale, shouldn't the Orcs having a troll raise theirs? It would just be easier to give someone a trait like "commands the Rohirrim"
or "Troll-Keeper" that adds to the General's dread/chivalry.

I agree with that. It's a much better idea then increasing morale/fear with the units whenever they come close to the enemy. However I do think that trolls/Nazgul/Mumak should create fear with the enemy, it should be the same as with Elephants and chariots in RTW.