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    Do they exist? Sure, quite possibly. Did some crackpot catch one on video? No. These things are ridiculously easy to forge, and even if not, you can't tell that it's actually an alien (rather than a strange form of life native to Earth) without, say, dissecting it, or getting tissue samples or something.
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    I am waiting for this one though. There is a long video(s) showing facial movement/expressions and a lot of experts are being brought in, including photographic experts and scientists.

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    Anyone undergraduate film student should be able to cook up such a thing. I mean, come on, the only reason you think it's an alien is because it looks like the fake aliens they have in the movies.
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    There is actually, and the governments working side by side with them. It's been happening for hundreds of years. How do you think we got the light bulb, or the car, or toilet paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveFallen View Post
    There is actually, and the governments working side by side with them. It's been happening for hundreds of years. How do you think we got the light bulb, or the car, or toilet paper.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical View Post
    Anyone undergraduate film student should be able to cook up such a thing. I mean, come on, the only reason you think it's an alien is because it looks like the fake aliens they have in the movies.
    Maybe and maybe not. Have to wait until the investigation is completed. In the meantime, I'm being nice to any Aliens I meet, including THE CAT.

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    Well, it's just plain stupid to suggest we're the only planet with life in the utter vastness of the universe.
    I read a book one time and it went over the likelihood of us coming into contact with aliens. Now I can't find the book, but it basically concluded that there was practically no chance of alien contact. It put into consideration factors like:
    • There are so-many estimated stars in the universe and a very small fraction of such stars have planets, and a fraction of such planet-bearing stars have planets that are in the exact position to support life
    • Such a planet could have grown an alien civilization already, and the civilization could have already fallen

    And so on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArPharazon View Post
    Well, it's just plain stupid to suggest we're the only planet with life in the utter vastness of the universe.
    I read a book one time and it went over the likelihood of us coming into contact with aliens. Now I can't find the book, but it basically concluded that there was practically no chance of alien contact. It put into consideration factors like:
    • There are so-many estimated stars in the universe and a very small fraction of such stars have planets, and a fraction of such planet-bearing stars have planets that are in the exact position to support life
    • Such a planet could have grown an alien civilization already, and the civilization could have already fallen

    And so on.

    Sounds a lot like the Drake Equation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation



    Here you can enter the variables and fine the chance that we will meet aliens:

    http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious..._equation.html


    I put in variables that sounded right to me and I got 45,000 species of communicating aliens in the milky way galaxy that are possible to meet.
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    Default Re: Do Aliens exist??

    I could of sworn there was a thread very similar to this one except with a different thread title floating around on this forum.but for the sake of answering the question posted.



    In this close-up of the new photo, some of the 100,000 more distant galaxies can be seen as one peers through the stars on the outskirts of the galaxy NGC 300.


    Anyone tell me that out of all the galaxies in the universe and mind you there is only 100,000 shown here on this photo out of billions and billions of galaxies that we are the only intelligent life in the universe.I believe that they do exits it is just that we haven't discovered them yet.
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    Yeah, there HAS to be more life with more intelligence than humans out there, and some not as intellignet or developed of course.

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    Toilet paper came from the ancient Chinese. They were smart. Chris

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    Maybe he caught a ghost on video?

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    I'm certain they exist somewhere, in some form.

    However, I won't even try to hazard a guess as to say whether we will actually meet them in any kind of reasonable time frame. The conditions for life really are very specific, and it may well be that there's no form of intelligent life in our galaxy, let alone in our local area.
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    How can you tell if a video is a fake these days?

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    You can't, really, at least not from superficial examination, so you can't take it as substantial evidence.
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    Then I assume based on your criteria that pictures from NASA of stars and planets that have been "enhanced" should not be taken as substantial evidence.

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    Then let me clarify: the image by itself is not worth much. The image needs to be judged not just on its content, but its source. If you think NASA is forging images of distant planets, I can't really provide any hard evidence to the contrary, but you'll forgive me if I think the idea a bit paranoid. On the other hand, accepting this video as legitimate when it came from some completely nobody source strikes me as rather credulous, given the number of UFO hoaxes (many) versus the number of confirmed UFO sightings (none).
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    Honestly the shape in the window looks like a reflection of light from outside, possibly a street lamp.

    And why is it that all these little space aliens all tend to look the same. If the 'thing' didn't look like a classic alien (as depicted in movies, etc) would he have even thought it an alien?

    Mind playing tricks.

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    Beats me, but it is being investigated. Reason they all look the same is that they all may be the same species. It would also be interesting if silicon based life was someday found.

    Anyway, some more interesting earth-like planets just found:

    Astronomers find batch of "super-Earths"

    Artist's impression of the trio of super-Earths discovered using the HARPS s...
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    WASHINGTON — European researchers said on Monday they discovered a batch of three "super-Earths" orbiting a nearby star, and two other solar
    systems with small planets as well.

    They said their findings, presented at a conference in France, suggest that Earth-like planets may be very common. "Does every single star harbor planets and, if yes, how many?" asked Michel Mayor of Switzerland's Geneva Observatory. "We may not yet know the answer but we are making huge
    progress towards it," Mayor said in a statement.

    The trio of planets orbit a star slightly less massive than our Sun, 42 light-years away towards the southern Doradus and Pictor constellations. A light-year is the distance light can travel in one year at a speed of 186,000 miles a second, or about 6 trillion miles.

    The planets are bigger than Earth -- one is 4.2 times the mass, one is 6.7 times and the third is 9.4 times. They orbit their star at extremely rapid speeds -- one whizzing around in just four days, compared with Earth's 365 days, one taking 10 days and the slowest taking 20 days.

    Mayor and colleagues used the High Accuracy Radial velocity Planet Searcher or HARPS, a telescope at La Silla observatory in Chile, to find the planets.
    More than 270 so-called exoplanets have been found. Most are giants, resembling Jupiter or Saturn. Smaller planets closer to the size of Earth are far more difficult to spot.

    None can be imaged directly at such distances but can be spotted indirectly using radio waves or, in the case of HARPS, spectrographic measurements. As a planet orbits, it makes the star wobble very slightly and this can be measured. "With the advent of much more precise instruments such as the HARPS spectrograph ... we can now discover smaller planets, with masses between 2 and 10 times the Earth's mass," said Stephane Udry, who also worked on the study.

    The team also said they found a planet 7.5 times the mass of Earth orbiting the star HD 181433 in 9.5 days. This star also has a Jupiter-like planet that orbits every three years. Another solar system has a planet 22 times the mass of Earth, orbiting every four days, and a Saturn-like planet with a 3-year period.

    "Clearly these planets are only the tip of the iceberg," said Mayor. "The analysis of all the stars studied with HARPS shows that about one third of all
    solar-like stars have either super-Earth or Neptune-like planets with orbital periods shorter than 50 days."

    (Reporting by Maggie Fox; Editing by John O'Callaghan)

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