Nancy Pelosi credits Iran with surge success

**Joker85** · May 30, 2008, 09:21 PM

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...greenwald/8571

And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians-they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities-the Iranians.

Gotta love the Democratic Party. They won't credit Bush, Patraeus, or our troops with the success of the surge. But they sure don't mind bending over to Iran and giving them credit for what our troops spent the past 18 months in Iraq fighting and dying for while Iran was doing everything in their power to make the situation worse.

RDDB traitors in Congress need to go. They spent a year and a half telling our troops "YOU CANT SUCCEED THIS IS DOOMED TO FAIL BEFORE IT STARTS"... then once the results have become undeniable, they attempt to take the credit that they bled for away from them and give it to Ahmadenijad and the very people killing our soldiers in Iraq!

Absolutely unbelievable and inexcusable.

**Oldgamer** · May 30, 2008, 09:42 PM

I think that Obambam ought to pick Nancy as his VP!

**Senno** · May 31, 2008, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Oldgamer

I think that Obambam ought to pick Nancy as his VP!

God, I would love that. Get her outta the Speaker's Chair. Such an amazing hypocritical liberal. Maybe then she could gracefully retire after they lose......

Unbelievable that they just refuse to give any credit where it's due. Such an incredible polarization.

**christof139** · May 30, 2008, 09:46 PM

That is ridiculous. Politics and politicians = stupidity. "Hell is empty. All the devils (morons) are here." Willy Shakespeare

Chris

**Surgeon** · May 30, 2008, 09:48 PM

Maybe this is the evolution in their Bush/Republican/Iraq war bashing.

Phase 1: "No! We'll never win this war!! We're all gonna die! Our sons and daughters are dooooooooomed!"
Phase 2: "Well would've never won had our enemies not been so noble. It's just luck things turned out okay."

**GeneralLee** · May 31, 2008, 12:14 AM

Smooth, the democratic candidates probably winced a little when they heard that.

**~~Exarch~~** · May 31, 2008, 12:15 AM

see what happens when we have women politicians?

should be at home in the kitchen

**Oldgamer** · May 31, 2008, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Exarch

see what happens when we have women politicians?

should be at home in the kitchen

I'm all for home-baked cookies!

**Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus** · May 31, 2008, 10:29 AM

Whats the outrage here ? Iran has been less Friendly to Al-sadr as it has been, no doubt that played a factor in his defeat.

**ChineseManchurian** · May 31, 2008, 12:27 AM

Nancy is a

, and we all know it.

**christof139** · May 31, 2008, 12:43 AM

Fancy Nancy. Sounds as good as Slick Willy etc. Chris

**MathiasOfAthens** · May 31, 2008, 02:17 AM

She was crediting Iran for negotiating with Sadr... you people are blowing this out of proportion.

And that comment on woman polititians, the Byzantine Empire had 6 or 7 Empresses that ruled. A woman is the same as any other man running for an office... it depends on the person and not the persons gender.
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Halfbaked

**~~removeduser_487563287433~~** · May 31, 2008, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Joker85

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...greenwald/8571

Gotta love the Democratic Party. They won't credit Bush, Patraeus, or our troops with the success of the surge. But they sure don't mind bending over to Iran and giving them credit for what our troops spent the past 18 months in Iraq fighting and dying for while Iran was doing everything in their power to make the situation worse.

RDDB traitors in Congress need to go. They spent a year and a half telling our troops "YOU CANT SUCCEED THIS IS DOOMED TO FAIL BEFORE IT STARTS"... then once the results have become undeniable, they attempt to take the credit that they bled for away from them and give it to Ahmadenijad and the very people killing our soldiers in Iraq!

Absolutely unbelievable and inexcusable.

What do you want her to do, tattoo the stars and stripes on her labia, stick here fingers in her ears and yell "LALALA AMERICA WINS THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT." Are you saying that Iran had no influence over the recent conflict in Basra, where the Iraqi government got very much beaten by the Shia militias?

**CDMan477** · May 31, 2008, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrets54

What do you want her to do, tattoo the stars and stripes on her labia, stick here fingers in her ears and yell "LALALA AMERICA WINS THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT." Are you saying that Iran had no influence over the recent conflict in Basra, where the Iraqi government got very much beaten by the Shia militias?

Hmm, of course they did. But one has to ask if a person should be credited for restraining their own dog after it attacked their neighbor, especially if they intentionally let the dog loose to carry out that attack in the first place.

The Republicans have been rightly criticized when they've tried to paint the war as a cheery, "end to major combat" type of scenario. Perhaps Democrats should be equally chastised when they make every effort to equally politicize the war in a negative light. This statement continues to reinforce the Dem's position that despite any changes that may have taken place that this war is completely "lost." It is also most likely a back door attempt to support Obama's statement of negotiation with Iran.

**~~removeduser_487563287433~~** · May 31, 2008, 07:09 AM

Right, and Iran did have great influence over the resolution of the recent conflict in Basra (and they did) how exactly does it help America or Iraq to deny that, to stick our heads in the sand? What good will come from shooting the messenger in this situation?

**CDMan477** · May 31, 2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrets54

Right, and Iran did have great influence over the resolution of the recent conflict in Basra (and they did) how exactly does it help America or Iraq to deny that, to stick our heads in the sand? What good will come from shooting the messenger in this situation?

Well, having reread the op and subsequent posts again, I don't deny that they come off being equally partisan statements on their part. I would have taken a different approach. In the end, their beef isn't about who gets the credit over containing the recent situation in Basra, (considering your right about Iran's part in it anyway) but that the messenger here paints only one side of the story for political gain. Again, this isn't unique to her by any stretch but it is present none the less.

**NoFrag** · May 31, 2008, 07:27 AM

Uk / US should've never stepped into Iraq in the first place.

**The King Of Peasants** · May 31, 2008, 09:10 AM

Uk / US should've never stepped into Iraq in the first place.

A good and very relevant point(not)

In an interview yesterday with the San Francisco Chronicle, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi claimed the U.S. troop surge failed to accomplish its goal. She then partially credited the success of the troop surge to “the goodwill of the Iranians,” claiming that they were responsible for ending violence in the southern city of Basra.

This is an inexcusable slander. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki brought the Sadrists militias to their knees in a month-long battle that enabled Iraq’s largest Sunni bloc to rejoin the government. Furthermore, when Pelosi met with Prime Minister al-Maliki in Mosul she sang quite a different tune. She had “welcomed Iraq’s progress in passing a budget as well as oil legislation, and a bill paving the way for the provincial elections in the fall that are expected to more equitably redistribute power among local officials,” and stated, “We’re assured the elections will happen here, they will be transparent, they will be inclusive and they will take Iraq closer to the reconciliation we all want it to have.”

Ferrets don't you see how hypocritical that is...

**christof139** · May 31, 2008, 10:35 AM

Point is that Iran is supplying armaments to certain Shia militias including IED's. Al-Sadr has told his people to cool it, and I give him credit and he can be reasonable, but Iran is still supplying the extremists.

Chris